RE: A Question From Atheists
June 22, 2017 at 11:01 pm
(This post was last modified: June 22, 2017 at 11:06 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(June 22, 2017 at 9:17 pm)nosferatu323 Wrote: I appreciate your answers.Hey, that's what the board is all about - glad to be of service, lol.
Quote:Thank you.The subject of god doesn't seem to be lacking in any clear definition for me either, it's just as easy for me to realize that no matter what a pantheist believes about the universe, it's not a god - it's the universe, nor would me believing in the universe also mean that I believed in gods, nor would the universe clearly existing show that a god clearly exists.
You asserted that you lack the belief in "all gods". I just presented you the Pantheist's god which is the universe itself. For pantheist, god is another term to refer to the universe. You are claiming that universe cannot be god and these two cannot be unified. I assume this is your subjective opinion. This is a fact that the universe is considered as god in various beliefs.
As for your analogy, I suppose this is a false analogy. Unlike god, Atheism has a very clear definition and nobody would accept your definition " liking chocolate was being an atheist". But "god is the universe" is a valid definition of god, it might be different from the version of god that you have known, but that doesn't mean it's an unacceptable definition.
All the existence of pantheism shows, and all the existence of the universe shows..is that there are some people in the universe who call it god. I could call you Susan Besmicket..but that wouldn't mean that Susan was your name, or that Susan Besmicket existed.
You supposed wrong. I'll take "equivocation" for 500 alex.
Quote:When you state "I do not believe in any gods" you are implying that you are aware of all gods and you deny their existence. But I just presented the pantheist's god which's existence cannot be negated.It would be pointless to assert that I'm aware of all gods..since every christer, for example, has his own personal jesus that lives in his head and likes what he likes and hates what he hates...... but I'm familiar with the category as a whole, and I do deny the existence of any proposed entity in that category. Most atheists don't, but I don't mind.
The pantheists classification -as- a god was negated...so that one's not much of an issue for me. How about you? Do you think that pantheist god exists?
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