A Question From Atheists

[pocaracas]

Everything is the Universe... well yes, as far as we can tell. There could be more than the Universe, but we can't tell, so better keep that in the realm of speculation.
So we already have two words to describe everything.... one is a bit vague - everything - the other is a bit more scientific - Universe.
Why would we latch on here a word that traditionally has a very different meaning?... like anything out of or beyond the Universe. The purpose of this can only be to confuse the matter and lead people into the slippery slope I mentioned above and which's failure can be spotted by any thinking mind.

You see, I simply used an encyclopedia to bring into attention some of the definitions of god that can be found there, and are clearly existent. In fact these definitions are not "traditional" they are widely believed in our time. Mostly in east. My personal belief is of this kind also.

Ahhh..... I see.
What sort of belief is one in which you believe in the existence of the Universe?
Why call it god?

Again I did not want to prove that god exists or prove my belief is true.

You don't need to prove that the Universe exists. Unless one goes into solipsism which is a self-defeating proposition...
But I'm curious... what is the purpose of calling the Universe "god"?

I just wanted to inform people here that there are people who believe in a god whose existence cannot be negated.

You say that and I hear "People redefine the word "god" to become something that is self-evident and then believe that exists" woopitydoo!

Also the "much much more argument" was not used. A definition of god which clearly states "god is identical with the universe" not "god includes universe" was used throughout the discussion.

I know, I know.
I just like to take the next step, because what you've said so far seems philosophical nonsense.

Again I appreciate everyone's answer. People are starting to get angry with my posts I guess because they feel I'm dishonest, deceitful, etc. which is something I would rather prevent. So let's end the discussion here. Cheers.

ARGHHH!!!