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Both Bernie and Hillary supporters pissing me off.
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RE: Both Bernie and Hillary supporters pissing me off.
(June 23, 2017 at 7:45 pm)A Theist Wrote:
(June 23, 2017 at 7:35 pm)Mermaid Wrote: Why is she unelectable?
She already lost two bids for the presidency. One to Obama in the democratic primaries before the 2008 general election, and the second, she lost to now President Trump. Besides, she has too much political baggage, she's too establishment, and too much controversy.

Yea it doesn't matter to you that Hillary was vilified even as far back as when she was merely a governor's wife. She was the first first lady who stood out and simply didn't act like a housewife. And she's been attacked wrongfully since. 

Political baggage? Yea I agree, but not because she deserves it, but because we have still far too many idiot men on the right that are still frightened by a minority leading. 

Establishment? Yea ok, sure. Held hostage just like Obama and just like Bill by a GOP that has held the majority of power on average since Reagan. Hard to get things done when you have a bunch of assholes constantly watering things down and or obstructing. 

My only reason for not wanting her to run is because between a minority of her followers, and a minority of Bernie's followers they create a big enough divide we'd give asshole Covfefe 8 years. But do I think she would have made a great president. FUCK YES!

(June 23, 2017 at 6:34 pm)Court Jester Wrote:
(June 23, 2017 at 6:26 pm)Brian37 Wrote: That makes you an idiot. The GOP is chomping at the bit to screw 24 million including over 1 million vets out of health care, more tax breaks for the rich that will make Bush Jr's crash look like an economic boom.

We've done the deregulation and don't tax the rich since Reagan and all that has done is gutted the middle class and exploded the pay gap and made it harder and harder for workers to make ends meet.

It astounds me how people can get stupid and vote against their own self interests.

I am a vet. I have the VA and nothing is changing that.
The middle class is screwed because jobs have gone over seas because taxes are lower. That came from both parties.

No, jobs get overseas because corporate America has no sense of loyalty to invest in the country they get rich in. "The taxes are lower" is BLACKMAIL, not based on supply and demand, but greed.

Those idiots can pay more, but don't want to. And if they would pull their heads out of their asses, and pay workers livable wages, they'd find whatever they initially lose in higher taxes, since WORKERS make the bulk of the buying power, if paid livable wages, the revenue generated by more workers partaking in the market, that would more than make up for the higher taxes. In fact, they would actually pay less in many cases because workers would not be as frequently dependent on government assistance. 

Between WW2 and 1980 the tax rate was much higher, at one point up to 90% but aver deductions 50%, we also had a lower pay gap, a family could live off of one income, and we had far more unions. I can even remember when I was a kid that health insurance was so cheap, that my mom had the choice of paying out of pocket or use her insurance. 

We did the "don't tax the rich" we've done "deregulation" since Reagan and it has only eroded the middle class and sucked the money up to the top.
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RE: Both Bernie and Hillary supporters pissing me off. - by Brian37 - June 23, 2017 at 8:14 pm

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