A Question From Atheists

[The Grand Nudger]

My personal opinion is that one must "get involved" to make sense out of it. It requires major transition and shift in the way you see the universe and your self to start making sense. Otherwise, no matter how much your read about it, it might be nothing more than some "philosophical nonsense" as you put it.

Something "making sense" doesn't depend on any "major shift or transition" in an individual.  It either makes sense on it;s own, by it;s own merits..or it doesn;t.  

Anytime you find yourself telling someone that they have to squint real, real hard to see what you see....it's probably because what you see isn't there.  Pantheism makes -no- sense...but it doesn't have to, because it's just another god belief among many, all of which make absolutely no sense...and their not making sense has nothing to do with whether or not someone transitioned or shifted something about themselves.  Even if they did...pantheism would make as much sense as it did before they did so...which, just for reference..again, is zero sense.

If, by "making sense" what you actually mean..is that a person can transform themselves into someone so gullible and vacuous that it then -seems- to make sense...then sure, fine..but here again we see you have a problem with words. This nonsense, up above..frankjly, is the all to common insistence that if people don;t see that some god belief x is right, it;s because of some defeciency in themselves that they can remedy. It's bullshit, and it's fundamentally -offensive- bullshit. The funny thing about god beliefs, is that the peddlers often find themselves feeling very pious, and measured, and intelligent, and scholarly....while they;re actually the equivalent of some asshole on a sidewalk shouting obscenities at random passersby.