RE: A Question From Atheists
June 25, 2017 at 9:20 pm
(This post was last modified: June 25, 2017 at 9:22 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(June 25, 2017 at 9:02 pm)nosferatu323 Wrote: I didn't come to any conclusion.You don't recall offering the gem...that an atheist couldn't coherently say that he doesn't believe in any god, in the face of the pantheist god? You absolutely have come to a conclusion. The conclusion....at the very least that the pantheists god is cogent enough to provide some sort of logical problem for an atheist. How could you have reached -that- conclusion..not knowing what a god is?
Quote:Universe is God is simply a sentence to invite people to try to see the universe in a different light. It doesn't mean anything. Why? Because it's very cool. It's very very cool to see the universe in a particular way. In a way that it is one and there is no multiplicity in it. So it's natural to invite others also. God is just the most popular nonsensical word to refer to something very desirable which must be attained and is not already here with you. It's a useful word, but once someone observes the oneness of the Universe, the term is useless. The story ends. Of course you'll have to use God to help out those who are interested to join.What did I just read?
Quote:Ok, let's talk some nonsense to see if it makes it more interesting for you, the illusion of "I" makes you perceive the Universe as a collection of objects, and prevents you from seeing the real nature of the Universe which is one.That's not what makes me perceive the universe as a collection of objects...at all. It doesn't prevent me from seeing that the universe is one, at all, either...particularly if all of these shamans with intact "I"s keep seeing "the real nature of the universe"......
Quote:As soon as the illusion of separation of "I" and the Universe is removed,-by sitting on the ground cross legged and quiet..let's make sure that we don't forget what we're talking about...as though it weren't patently ridiculous on it's face.......
Quote:the separation of objects from each other and the Universe also vanishes.Hmn, something tells me that when I invariably fall asleep...the separate object of my head crashing into the separate object of the floor will reverse whatever effect this woo is supposed to have.
Quote:What remains is the Universe alone. Once you attain this state of conciseness you are no longer an independent agent within this Universe but a mere observer.Cool story?
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