(June 27, 2017 at 10:27 am)alpha male Wrote:(June 26, 2017 at 4:53 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Pretty sure I read somewhere that God deals in eternal suffering as well as eternal reward. How is suffering in hell good? If you're a universalist, I withdraw the question.
Yes, he deals in eternal suffering as well, but we were talking about those whom God loves. For them, suffering leads to a greater good. I never said that the eternal suffering of the condemned leads to good.
(June 26, 2017 at 4:57 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: I'm sure there is a large section in heaven, bleachers if you will, where there is a good view of the depredations of hell.
It would have to be a popular venue for entertainment. Doling out inequity and the wages of sin. Just fulfilling the contract.
No schadenfreude, of course.
See Ezek 33:11. God takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked. Pretty sure we'll have better things to do.
I thought I parsed that pretty well, and upon review, yeah, I did.
I'm sure the shrieks of the damned are audible in heaven (excepting those sinners God gives throat cancer to before they die) and it's a 'perk' for the heavenly host regardless of how it's defined.
I also note, with a past history of heavenly rebellion, God would need some subtle reminders to ward off more 'in house' insurrection. Yeppers, even heaven needs policed.
The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it.
