RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new
June 28, 2017 at 6:43 am
(June 25, 2017 at 1:12 pm)Aliza Wrote:(June 25, 2017 at 12:49 pm)Roeki Wrote: Well jews dont believe hell fire is torment, the fire they think of is to cleanse you from unpure stuff, but not torture. Basically hell is more that you are ashamed or something and have to be rehabilitated. King of what psychologists do before you go to heaven. Basically in judaism anyone can go to heaven if they are good or dont commit blasphemy etc.... though even if they are bad there doesnt seem to be much consequences. Well unless you reaaaaaally are just awful, and that has to be on a huge level. There is this place called Abaddon, which esentially means your soul and body goes to the void or something, the nothingness.
Blasphemy in Judaism isn't the same as it is in Christianity, but your description is close enough. Thank you.
Still... What do Jews believe they are being tested on? (It might be appropriate for me to mention at this point that I'm an educated Jew.)
You are playing word games.
It does not matter the religious label, worldwide if you push any group far enough with criticism or ridicule, enough in that group will get angry that you are pointing out the flaws in their logic. Jews not having a hell does not change that their head character is stolen from prior Canaanite polytheism. It also does not change the fact they also have their sects and individual families whom also are extreme right conservatives whom also are sexist and homophobic. And if you think there are no far right Jews in Israel whom have the same "all or nothing" "us vs them" mentality as their conservative Muslim counterparts, you'd be wrong.
There are also extreme right Hindus and Buddhists. I can show you stories of Hindus assaulting and murdering others for killing cows. I can show you stories of arrests in Asia for blasphemy of Buddha.
Don't get stuck on labels. Our species behaviors are in us, and this is the problem WORLDWIDE. Humans far too much get focused on their camps and refuse to understand that even within the same umbrella labels, there are competing sub sects that don't agree on how to follow or who to follow when it comes to the umbrella label.
While you CANNOT rid the world of any group, it has to be said that religion itself, is a horrible way to conduct political diplomacy. It can only be managed and protected EQUALLY as a human right, but it should not get a blind pedestal free from criticism.
I don't give Jews a pass either. That does not make me anti Jew, or anti Israel, it merely means when it comes to flaws in logic, or justifications for violence, I DON'T GIVE ANYONE a pass. I don't give my fellow atheists a pass either. Humans in general worldwide need to understand the difference between hate and bigotry, and criticism and ridicule of bad claims and bad logic.
