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Matter and energy can be past-eternal
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RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal
(June 29, 2017 at 9:05 pm)ignoramus Wrote: I'm with you all the way OP.
I also say Godditit to most things too.

Forget the bigbang. Let's special plead infinite regress into existence instead! Big Grin

Except, nobody did that in this thread. I think you may be another dyslexic retard who pretends to read science. Watching a five minute clip on YouTube of Sean Carroll speculating (he's a theoretical physicist after all) isn't the same as cracking open an actual textbook on physics; and Carroll's speculations aren't indicative of what most cosmologists believe--nor are they indicative of where the evidence points to. The fact that you think the multiverse is considered plausible by most cosmologists (at the present moment) shows that you don't know what you're talking about.

Alex also doesn't know what he's talking about. I've already demonstrated that in this thread. No amount of cheerleader is going to change that. For instance, he doesn't understand what a singularity is. And I made that painfully clear in this thread. That's a very basic concept. "[Alex] he's knows more about this stuff in his sleep then you know at your best" He is knows? English is hard. If that's the case then tell him to come back while he's sleepwalking.

Stephen Hawking is an actual scientist. You don't think he is? Again, you're retarded.

Carroll didn't spank anyone in that debate. He got spanked. But if you want to explain to me how he won the debate, I'm all ears.

Finally, what part of your video is relevant to this discussion? Carroll is throwing out a bunch of possibilities and claims, but possibilities and bare claims are cheap. I'm interested in what is plausible, evidence based, and reasonable. Sean Carroll should read up on Occam's Razor. Cosmologists think the entropy around the big bang was zero or close to it. The entropy level is higher now. This seems to point to a beginning--but instead of going that route, Carroll starts getting into metaphysics, positing multiple universes and other wishy-washy ideas that there is no evidence for; indeed, it may be the case that it's impossible to even observe these other universes even if they do exist! He may as well be positing Leprechauns. To his credit, he admits there's no evidence for other universes, let alone an infinite number of them. David Gross, nobel prize winner, thinks the multiverse is bullshit and equates it to "it smells of angels." According to him, most physicists are uncomfortable with this type of empirically baseless metaphysical thinking in science. So instead of saying "god dun it" you're saying "the multiverse dun it." Ironic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEx5rWfz2ow
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RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Alex K - June 28, 2017 at 4:11 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Alex K - June 28, 2017 at 4:15 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Alex K - June 28, 2017 at 4:53 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Alex K - June 29, 2017 at 2:33 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Alex K - June 29, 2017 at 3:16 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Alex K - June 29, 2017 at 4:43 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Alex K - June 29, 2017 at 4:55 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Alex K - June 29, 2017 at 5:03 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by bennyboy - June 29, 2017 at 11:22 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Jesster - June 29, 2017 at 5:05 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Alex K - June 29, 2017 at 5:07 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Alex K - June 29, 2017 at 5:27 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by bennyboy - June 29, 2017 at 11:38 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Alex K - June 29, 2017 at 5:36 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Amarok - June 29, 2017 at 8:07 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by ManofYesterday - June 29, 2017 at 9:42 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Amarok - June 29, 2017 at 9:11 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Astonished - June 29, 2017 at 10:35 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Jesster - June 30, 2017 at 12:16 am
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Amarok - June 30, 2017 at 12:34 am
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Alex K - June 30, 2017 at 1:10 am
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Alex K - June 30, 2017 at 1:28 am
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Alex K - June 30, 2017 at 1:46 am
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Alex K - June 30, 2017 at 2:23 am
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Amarok - June 30, 2017 at 2:34 am
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Alex K - June 30, 2017 at 2:40 am
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Jesster - June 30, 2017 at 4:40 am
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Amarok - June 30, 2017 at 3:00 am
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Succubus - June 30, 2017 at 3:46 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Succubus - June 30, 2017 at 4:55 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Alex K - June 30, 2017 at 4:55 am
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Amarok - June 30, 2017 at 5:04 am
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RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Alex K - June 30, 2017 at 7:02 am
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by LastPoet - June 30, 2017 at 8:13 am
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Alex K - June 30, 2017 at 8:30 am
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Alex K - June 30, 2017 at 11:18 am
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Succubus - June 30, 2017 at 10:41 am
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Alex K - June 30, 2017 at 11:24 am
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Ben Davis - June 30, 2017 at 12:50 pm
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RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Amarok - June 30, 2017 at 11:53 am
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RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Amarok - June 30, 2017 at 3:06 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Succubus - June 30, 2017 at 3:40 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Amarok - June 30, 2017 at 3:44 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Alex K - June 30, 2017 at 3:46 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Succubus - June 30, 2017 at 3:53 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Amarok - June 30, 2017 at 3:49 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Alex K - June 30, 2017 at 3:52 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Succubus - June 30, 2017 at 4:03 pm
Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by LadyForCamus - June 30, 2017 at 3:58 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Amarok - June 30, 2017 at 4:04 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Alex K - June 30, 2017 at 4:06 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Succubus - June 30, 2017 at 4:09 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Amarok - June 30, 2017 at 4:08 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Amarok - June 30, 2017 at 4:20 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Alex K - June 30, 2017 at 4:52 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Amarok - June 30, 2017 at 4:55 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Succubus - June 30, 2017 at 5:11 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Succubus - June 30, 2017 at 5:14 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Amarok - June 30, 2017 at 5:12 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by brewer - June 30, 2017 at 6:55 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by bennyboy - June 30, 2017 at 6:59 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Succubus - June 30, 2017 at 7:17 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by bennyboy - June 30, 2017 at 6:54 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Succubus - June 30, 2017 at 5:18 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Alex K - June 30, 2017 at 5:29 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Amarok - June 30, 2017 at 5:31 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Amarok - June 30, 2017 at 6:31 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Alex K - June 30, 2017 at 6:38 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Amarok - June 30, 2017 at 6:42 pm
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RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by brewer - June 30, 2017 at 7:22 pm
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RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Alex K - June 30, 2017 at 7:27 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by bennyboy - June 30, 2017 at 7:37 pm
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RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Amarok - June 30, 2017 at 9:15 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by bennyboy - June 30, 2017 at 8:13 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Amarok - June 30, 2017 at 8:16 pm
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by bennyboy - July 1, 2017 at 12:02 am
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by bennyboy - July 1, 2017 at 12:35 am
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Alex K - July 1, 2017 at 1:00 am
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Amarok - July 1, 2017 at 1:08 am
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Amarok - July 1, 2017 at 2:53 am
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Alex K - July 1, 2017 at 3:41 am
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Amarok - July 1, 2017 at 3:42 am
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Alex K - July 1, 2017 at 8:23 am
RE: Matter and energy can be past-eternal - by Amarok - July 1, 2017 at 8:43 am
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