Matter and energy can be past-eternal

[bennyboy]

That the big bang is a singularity? Yes, most cosmologists do believe that. Or are you referring to my definition of singularity? Yes, most cosmologists also agree with my definition of a singularity.

Okay, that's an assertion. Now demonstrate that your assertion is correct.

By saying something can only be false, you’re saying that it is necessarily false, but the statement, “I’ve read and talked to most cosmologists” is logically possible and therefore can be true. I think what you mean to say is it’s implausible.

Bullshit. I'm saying there a lot of cosmologists, and it's not possible for you to have either read or communicated with most of them. You'll need to demonstrate the truth of your assertion that most cosmologists share Hawking's view of the beginnings of the Universe, or moderate your assertion with something more intellectually honest, like: "In my limited experience as an amateur physics enthusiast, it seems to me that. . . "

I’ve read numerous books and texts in physics, listened to talks and conferences for physicists, and I’ve taken college-level courses in physics.
But let me stop you right here. All you’ve done up until this point is commit the logical fallacy argumentum ad hominem. It doesn’t matter what I’ve read or haven’t read. What matters is the arguments that I’ve presented. When are you going to get to those?

This statement is incoherent. You're saying I've discarded your arguments based on a portrayal of your person. In fact, I've never discarded your arguments at all, or even suggested that they are false. You can't have an argumentum ad hominem when you're not making an argument.

As for your appeal to the many, many books you've read, go ahead and list them. Then summarize what they've said that is relevant to your assertions in the OP, and explain why challenges to those theories may be safely discarded. Or just keeping saying your "Hawking. . . Hawking. . . Hawking!" mantra over and over again until we are all hypnotized by it. It's up to you.

Yeah, go read them and come back here. I’ll be waiting.

Read them yourself. I'm not asserting things about the positions of an entire field of scientists-- that's you. So support your assertion or keep rambling on about how you're right because Hawking. Why don't you google something like "is the universe past-eternal" and realize that there's a huge body of work out there, and then address at least some of that academic work in the fantastic revelation of Truth that is your OP?

One last thing though. Two last things actually. Notice how you didn’t engage in any of my arguments? Yeah, I noticed it as well.

Hey Alex: I’m still waiting for evidence of your credentials. Hack.

Since your ideas are not your own, then if I wanted to debate ideas about physics, I'd go to a physics forum, find someone with original ideas, and debate them instead. I'm just pointing out that your entire pissing-contest of a thread is really just you parroting about only one scientist, and you demonstrating a vast lack of knowledge of anything conceived in the last several decades. You can VERY easily rebut me by showing you DO know fucking anything about physics at all, and explaining why the many dozens of credible theories on cosmology should be discarded in favor of the one view you picked up from the back cover of a library book.