(June 30, 2017 at 7:43 pm)Lek Wrote:(June 30, 2017 at 4:18 pm)Die Atheistin Wrote: Christianity claims that God made you, and he loves you very much. If you kill yourself you will anger him, because you didn't apreccciate his gift, your life, and he will send you to Hell.
Guess what, nobody ever has choosed to be born, and not everybody has had a good life. People usually kill themeselves because they've been traumatised or hate themeselves.
If God didn't want people to kill themeselves, why would He allow them to had bad lives? And if life is a "gift" than wouldn't you be allowed to do what you wan't with it?
When you give someone a present you expect them to do whatever they want with it. If God can't accept that He's a whiny little bitch.
Of course suicide is bad, but it's bad because you will also miss the good things in life, it's bad because it saddens people who love you, not because it will piss off some immature man in the sky. Bad has many shades, not all bad things need to be punished.
Suicidals need help in order to become happy, to enjoy life. Psychology claims the exact opposite of Christianity.
To discriminate against gays, women and atheists is one thing for Christianity. Sure, it's bad, really bad to hate people for being different. But to hate on people for not wanting to live is more than disgusting!
People don't go to hell for committing suicide, but for refusing God's offer of salvation. Yes, suicide is considered sinful because our lives belong to God. A follower of Christ shouldn't consider suicide. The problem is we don't know what the state of a person's mind is at that point and are not equipped to make a judgement concerning that person's salvation. If a person says "God, I know what your will is, but I don't care" I would think that he doesn't want salvation and won't have it. If his mind is messed up, as is the case of many suicide victims, who knows?
This is one example of many where Christianity has "changed its tune" over the centuries. Prior to the year 1900, there was no question whatsoever in theologians' minds that individuals who committed suicide went straight to eternal Hell.
