Christianity and Suicide

[Mystical]

Christianity claims that God made you, and he loves you very much. If you kill yourself you will anger him, because you didn't apreccciate his gift, your life, and he will send you to Hell.

No. You will be judged just like everyone else based on what God gave you to deal with and how you dealt with your life. If God sent you straight to Hell that would be the unforgivable sin, and the bible does not label it as such. There is only one unforgivable sin and that is blaspheme of the holy Spirit.

*b by me

Thaaaatssss the one, Lek. Fuck the Holy Spirit and fuck your god. 
All talk and no action still? 

My DOG is more moral than the god of Abraham. If I go to hell for rejecting him so be it. At least I won't be a hypocritical butt sniffer who is too weak to stand up for what's right. What if you were killed in a car crash and your wife lost all hope and killed herself? Would you be like, oh okay I guess she deserves what she gets godman, you're totally awesome let's go back to singing your praise while you watch her get tossed in a fiery lake and tormeted.. forever ?

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Oh, sorry to pull on your strings. Be happy! I am.
I'm not ashamed of my situation, I love my life. Every day is a "blessing". I live to love, and I love to live. If only I could live more. I'd still have the same goals now as I did before my illness came to a head. It halted my life in terms of regularity, but I have lived many lives since then happy to report.

I want to help people. I want to spread love and goodness in this world. I'm here at these forums because I've come to know many people here that are more down to earth than most people I've come across during my entire lifetime! It's fantastic. I love meeting different people of differing beliefs. I do not, however, put up with biblical apologists nor will I allow someone so out of touch with life judge me.

Anyone who pulls out the destitution card is a pathetic apologist who needs to get off their asses and go see some of the real world. I suggest volunteering for the WHO or Red Cross if they truly hold themselves accountable to their beliefs. Go tell that skeleton baby with a vulture behind it, that this is all gods plan and that Jesus loves him. Or just spend a day at the VA, or at a homeless shelter. Child's canicer unit. Anything, really. Tossing money in a collection basket and considering your duty fulfilled is monkeys work.

When I was at work with my mom where she cared for a 17yr old who has the mind of a toddler and the body of someone with dystonia. Daily seizures, if he got excited or upset or just for no reason.. seizures. Regularly needs his spit sucked from his chin, which is perpetually raw from a lifetime of such. He had a seizure. He hates them so much, and I can't blame him. But mom just held him, and wiped his vomit and cradled him like a baby.. and she said oh honey it's okay it's okay Jesus loves you as he just shook his head no no no in response, with tears running down his face. I don't fault her or anyone for trying to comfort someone with love,wherever it may be coming from. But I think his reaction speaks for itself. And her love is precious. Even to this day, albeit she's in a lesbian relationshup to the best partner I've ever seen her with--she still quotes Jesus and believes in the bible and heaven. Not so much hell, but I'm not going to be the one to unsolicited knock on her beliefs like these Christians come here specifically to do to us.

If her belief makes her happy, so be it. My non belief has set me free and I've lost so many complexes I can hardly contain my excitement! I'm free to love freely, and there's nothing on this earth, more precious than that.

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I love that you can have that outlook and proclaim it so confidently. I haven't endured that much by comparison but (and I am not so naive that I don't realize it comes out rather frequently and easily) it's made me very bitter and I don't generally enjoy life very much because I don't have a very easy time seeing the good. I wish I had the kind of strength you do. But then I see parents leading kids down the same path I nearly got led down if a few more bad turns had let certain folk be more present in my early life than they otherwise did...it shatters all the potential good I can see beyond them.

Even better, you can say it to every theist who thinks they've got the right idea about how we do feel, or should feel, when things aren't their brightest. Let it snap their necks with how fiercely it shocks them to hear that they're dead wrong. And be proud everything didn't make you feel so weak and worthless that you had to turn to an imaginary friend just to survive or feel better. Every supposedly inspirational story from the faithful I've ever heard combined can't hold a candle to that.

It was hard and still is, when things are at their worst for me, to have my family either try to console me with heaven and think I'll come running back. 
On the other hand it's equally as hard to know what to say to them when they go through their own hardships! Just because you don't believe doesn't mean you are excluded from the apathy and desolation you may feel in this life about yourself or for others. I heard this in a song last fall and it stuck: "Don't be fooled by the emptiness, because there's so much room left for happiness!"

Yes, our hearts break and we must rebuild them. Life fails us and we have to deal with it. I've had countless doctors straight up shake their heads when they meet me after having read my chart, and say they aren't sure if they'd be able to live my life, even having some say they'd have given up long ago. I tell them there's no way I could live their lives, and just stop that nonsense right there and then! 

As for finding good amidst the bad, I heard someone on this forum say once, that they asked their mom about why there's so much suffering in the world. She said, look for the helpers. They're always out there. 

I am a helper. I am a survivor. I've been through too much to give up now, and when I do die I hope it isn't in a hospital. That is all, and for me, it's enough. Keep searching for your own piece of happpiness in this life, I hope you find it!