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Typical theists versus typical atheists
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RE: Typical theists versus typical atheists
(July 7, 2017 at 10:09 am)bennyboy Wrote:
(July 7, 2017 at 9:11 am)KerimF Wrote: In other words, does, in general, an atheist (or a theist, actually) believe a new idea (discovery) if not approved worldwide first by certain scientists (other than the discoverers) who are privileged by the high class?
Science is classless.  Those who are most respected, or called great and therefore more easily believed, are so exactly because their ideas up to that point have stood up against all the best efforts of others.  Einstein was openly mocked.  He openly mocked others, and ended up being proven wrong.  It was not his name, or any authority he claimed, that mattered.  It was his ideas that mattered, and their ability to predict.

Yes, a lot of people DO believe blindly in science.  That's a problem, because when some rogue scientist says stupid shit, like vaccines lead to autism, a percentage of the population is almost guaranteed to believe them only because they are called scientists-- and kids end up dead.

But you have to understand-- people believing blindly in science are NOT scientists.  They are not members of the scientific community if they believe on faith alone.
Religion is the exact opposite.  Those who question their imams, rabbis or priests will be treated either condescendingly or with outright hostility.

Don't believe me?  Look how your ideas are turned over and over here.  They are sometimes mocked, sometimes considered, but they are heard and responded to.  Now, let one of us go to a religious site, and see how long our questions or arguments are tolerated.  I'll bet I can't go to Christian sites in particular, and type the word "evidence" more than 5 times before I'm banned.

To the credit of Islam, I'd say that Islamists DO take the philosophy of their religion seriously-- I suspect I might actually last a fair while at an Islamic site, even as a declared atheist.  But even then, I don't think anyone there will be able to give me a clear-cut process for the betterment of my knowledge of reality.

That you have to explain that to him is demonstrative of the inability of KerimF to comprehend reality on reality's terms. Since he seems to prefer to deflect anything that contradicts this worldview rather than saying "I don't understand, what do you mean by saying my preconception is flawed or downright stupid?" So tiresome. Thanks for putting up with him and putting in the effort to give such a detailed explanation, I've about given up.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?

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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.



Messages In This Thread
Typical theists versus typical atheists - by KerimF - July 2, 2017 at 9:39 am
RE: Typical theists versus typical atheists - by GUBU - July 3, 2017 at 6:16 am
RE: Typical theists versus typical atheists - by KerimF - July 3, 2017 at 11:58 am
RE: Typical theists versus typical atheists - by Astonished - July 7, 2017 at 10:21 am
RE: Typical theists versus typical atheists - by brewer - July 3, 2017 at 10:26 am
RE: Typical theists versus typical atheists - by GUBU - July 4, 2017 at 1:34 am
RE: Typical theists versus typical atheists - by GUBU - July 4, 2017 at 4:30 pm
RE: Typical theists versus typical atheists - by GUBU - July 5, 2017 at 5:44 am
RE: Typical theists versus typical atheists - by KerimF - July 5, 2017 at 11:08 am
RE: Typical theists versus typical atheists - by GUBU - July 7, 2017 at 1:29 pm
RE: Typical theists versus typical atheists - by KerimF - July 5, 2017 at 12:33 pm
RE: Typical theists versus typical atheists - by KerimF - July 9, 2017 at 12:30 pm
RE: Typical theists versus typical atheists - by KerimF - July 10, 2017 at 2:47 pm
RE: Typical theists versus typical atheists - by KerimF - July 11, 2017 at 2:51 pm
RE: Typical theists versus typical atheists - by Succubus - July 12, 2017 at 12:16 pm
RE: Typical theists versus typical atheists - by KerimF - July 13, 2017 at 3:36 am
RE: Typical theists versus typical atheists - by KerimF - July 13, 2017 at 5:36 pm
RE: Typical theists versus typical atheists - by KerimF - July 14, 2017 at 4:39 am
RE: Typical theists versus typical atheists - by KerimF - July 14, 2017 at 12:32 pm
RE: Typical theists versus typical atheists - by KerimF - July 14, 2017 at 10:06 am
RE: Typical theists versus typical atheists - by KerimF - July 15, 2017 at 2:10 pm

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