(July 15, 2017 at 6:14 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote:(July 15, 2017 at 5:41 pm)Brian37 Wrote: This thread is the FIRST time I have heard you describe yourself as a "conservative" or did I miss something?Dear heart, you stand utterly corrected.
Now feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but if you have said "I identify as a conservative", then you do agree with the GOP, or you are trying to personally re define the traditional usage of it.
Kinda like when Christians try to separate the New Testament from the Old Testament, which cannot be done.
At this point in history the vast majority of "conservatives" vote for the GOP or Libertarian. If you vote democrat I fail to see how that matches up.
Now maybe your next post should define what you think "conservative" means, or should mean, on both economic and social issues, because I wont lie, that DOES conflict with my long term knowledge of "conservatives".
I don't care what the majority does. I am me and if you really took the time to ask me what I mean by conservative I have no problem telling you. But the last thing in the world I feel like doing is explaining myself to people who assume they already know everything and jump down my throat like their opinion is the gospel truth.
Since I met you here I have always liked you and STILL DO.
But unless you want to tell me what you mean by "conservative" I have nothing to compare it to.
Thomas Jefferson, "Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them".
I can only respond to what I have seen with the history of that word. Now if you think I have it wrong, define it to me according to what you think it is or should be.
My long term observation of those who call themselves that, have been those who vote for both the wrong side of social and economic history.
I do not value religious bigotry.
I do not value Wall Street always having the last say.
I do not value having to make up for tax breaks for billionaires who don't need them.
I do not value climate change or evolution denial.
Now you think I am wrong, fine. Your next post should be define for you what you think it is or want it to be.
I am only basing my response to a long term social use of that word to the economic and religious right.
If you survey BOTH democrats and republicans and ask them which party the word "conservative" most likely refers to, I doubt most would say "democrat".


