RE: Can a Chrisitan lose his/her salvation?
July 15, 2017 at 10:52 pm
(This post was last modified: July 15, 2017 at 11:12 pm by Wyrd of Gawd.)
(July 15, 2017 at 7:15 am)mordant Wrote:(July 6, 2017 at 7:17 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Contrast this with Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy, Coptic Christianity and the Protestant Armenian school of thought that says that a person can sin to the point that he/she forfeits eternal life.It also contrasts with the doctrine of Universal Reconciliation (UR), or apokatastasis which states that all men will eventually be saved. Unlike "once saved always saved" this theological notion has roots back much further but has been a minority position and more of an expressed hope than a guarantee until the rise if Christian Universalism in the 19th century.
It also contrasts with the annihilationism (e.g., modern Anglicans, Christadelphians, Seventh Day Adventists) who state that the unsaved simply cease to exist at death, that the unregenerate are simply destroyed, not sent to eternal perdition.
(July 15, 2017 at 2:22 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: The original Bible was written in Latin. All of the Greek language Bibles are translations. And your Greek text is in Modern Greek.The original manuscripts of the OT are in Hebrew, the NT in Greek. The Latin Vulgate was an early translation from those originals. You have it exactly backwards. Where did you get such a notion?
You couldn't produce an authentic complete copy of a 2,000 year Hebrew & Greek biblical manuscripts if your life depended on it. They were all written after the year 700 A.D. The most that you can do is show bits and pieces of ragged barely legible fakes.
(July 15, 2017 at 8:08 am)Lutrinae Wrote: No matter in which language the bible was originally written, I think we can all agree that it has been translated so many times that the original meaning of what the book was supposed to convey is most likely lost in translation.
That's not exactly true. All of the Bible versions contain the same basic stories, except for the Protestant Bibles that deleted 14 books. Some versions do omit certain ideas and whole verses, which does change the doctrine. And you can also determine when a particular version was written by the words it uses. For instance, any Bible that contains the word "Jesus" was written after 1632. Any Bible that does no contain the Apocrypha was published after 1881.
Some Bibles (29 English language Bibles) are missing Acts 8:37. This is important because Acts 8:37 says that you have to believe with all of your heart in order to be baptized. By omitting that verse it allows for infants to be baptized.
