(July 20, 2017 at 12:27 am)Godscreated Wrote:(July 19, 2017 at 1:15 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Not amongst physicists. You know, the guys that actually study such things. Amongst the religious laiety it may be accepted fact. You know, the people who don't actually study such things.
So, as usual, you know no such thing.
ETA: Also, you appear to be equivocating on the meaning of "know". I was quite clear the sense of the word I am using here (something akin to "justified true belief"). You haven't justified it, and the truth value of your claim is unknown and possibly unknowable.
What hubris. You know what your bible has to say about pride, yes?
I'm not acting with pride, I'm stating fact and you know it. I've not heard of physicists saying that something can generate itself from nothing and just saying they believe it doesn't justify anything, nor does it make it true.
GC
Still waiting on that evidence that god even exists to start the universe...
Being careful is for people who can't handle surprises.