RE: Am I right to assume, that theists cannot prove that I am not god?
July 20, 2017 at 10:39 am
(July 20, 2017 at 8:10 am)Little Rik Wrote:(July 19, 2017 at 10:11 pm)Astonished Wrote: I suspect you wouldn't find a peer-reviewed journal or article on anything supernatural, or NDEs, without the word 'shit' with some kind of prefix like 'bull', 'horse', 'dog', etc., somewhere in them.
Peer review journal?
No, you will not find much about NDEs experiences in these journals.
Why?
Because these journals deal with the physical-mental world and considering that NDEs deal with the consciousness and the outside dimension is then obvious that you will not see any peer review about NDEs.
Take Sam Parnia which studied NDEs more than everybody else for several years and guess what was his conclusion?
He said that further studies are needed because he could not yet understand in positive or negative about them so all your crap of bull, horse and dogs are nowhere to be seen in any respectable study.
Quote:Personally I could give two shits if Caesar existed. What we learn from the story of his reign is sufficient. Anything else is just Shakespeare drama (and I don't give two shits if he existed either. We have the literature and that's all people who are into that kind of thing need.) Same with Socrates; what philosophy we learn from him and his students and their students are what matters. The existence of the person doesn't add anything significant. That's the difference between practicality and religion; in religion, the identity of the speaker and their existence is the only thing that makes what they say mean anything
1) First of all Jesus never intended start a religion.
In fact he was against religions and he showed that all the time that is why the priests asked Pontius Pilate to put him on the cross.
So it would be good if you guys stop associated Jesus with religions.
2) As you say.........what philosophy we learn from him and his students and their students are what matters......
Correct Ast, whether the person in question is Socrates or Jesus people learn something and that is what matters.
A myriad of people learn from Jesus teachings even if the caste of priests screwed up his teachings by turning them into religious dogmas.
Not all people however fall into the religious trap.
Many people understand his messages free from religious dogmas.
You got a big problem Ast.
You come to quick conclusions well before you really understand anything.
There are peer reviewed journals about psychology, which deals with consciousness. If NDEs are capable of being verified, as you claim, then there would be at least one peer reviewed study on it.
You can learn things from fictional characters all the time. That's not what's at issue here. Your claim was that Jesus was actually real, not whether or not we could learn anything from him. I can't really understand what you've got against religions. You are just like they are. Make a lot of claims, but have only "I feel it in my heart!" to back them up with. You've just made a religion of one and you cling to it just as irrationally as any other religious person would.
Being careful is for people who can't handle surprises.