North Korea Now Making Missile Ready Nuclear Weapons

[Brian37]

The issue at hand between 45 and Un are nukes, not ground wars. Bad excuses for ground wars are a different topic. Our species can survive ground wars without nukes, our species can get wiped out by a global nuclear war.

I don't want another ground war or a nuclear war. We cannot help what Un does, we can only react. How we react matters.

On the contrary, Kim is the one truly reacting.    He is reacting to our pattern of behavior in manufacturing fictitious threats to justify toppling dictators we've set up as obstacles to our geopolitical goals, as in Iraq,  and then in not keeping faith with dictators who does what we want and instead facilitate their being hunted down and killed, as in Libya.

Nuclear deterrent is his ticket for survival.   For all of trump's bluster and the idiotically cheesy chest thumping of low intelligence jingoists like A theist, no American regime would ever dare to risk nuclear retaliation on Los Angeles or Chicago in return for the pleasure of toppling Kim.

Um no, don't even try to justify what Un is doing. His family were despots long before he was born. No that does not mean we need to make excuses like Bush did. 

It is not an either or thing here. I already said I don't want either a nuclear war or another ground war either. I know what the GOP has done for decades, and no, nobody should want that. But that does not make Un or his family good either. Just like Cuba and the missile crisis under JFK didn't make Castro a hero. 

China doesn't want a refugee problem nor do they want a unified western free society next to it's border. This can be handled with diplomacy and sanctions. Neither a nuclear war or a ground war are an option.