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RE: North Korea Now Making Missile Ready Nuclear Weapons

August 9, 2017 at 2:49 pm (This post was last modified: August 9, 2017 at 2:56 pm by Anomalocaris.)

(August 9, 2017 at 1:32 pm)Jehanne Wrote:
(August 9, 2017 at 1:13 pm)Crossless2.0 Wrote: A harmless tub of hot air? Are you fucking kidding?!?

Tell that to the people of Seoul. I'm sure they can explain the significance of 15,000-odd artillery pieces and rocket launchers.

What makes anyone think that China will not get involved in a war that the US starts?

China will certainly get involved. But by what means will they get involved?

Will they come in with guns blazing? I doubt it.

More likely they will do something well short of open hostility, but still sufficient to severely circumscribe the range of military and political options available to the US, and leave the US the hideous options of accepting an inconclusive outcome that leaves china stronger, or bear the onus of starting a shooting war with rival superpower that has a real nuclear arsenal?

One possible thing they could do is at the start of hostility between US and North Korea, China will unilateral declare a sanctuary and no-fly zone over northern parts of North Korea, and start to patrol it with their air force. It might cover parts of North Korea's nuclear facilities and arsenal. They don't shoot at US forces unless the US forces shoots at them first, but they do make it impossible for the US to use military force to force a final outcome on the peninsula without driving the Chinese out.

What does the US do, bear the onus of starting a shooting war with china by shooting first? Or accept an inconclusive outcome to a discretionary war we started, and let American prestige and desireability as a security partner further decline because China has shown it can impose its will on other parts of Asia without firing a shot, even though they act directly against the very teeth of US military power?

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