North Korea Now Making Missile Ready Nuclear Weapons

[Anomalocaris]

He may be a brat, but he is not controlled by china.  If he was, he wouldn't have nuclear weapons.   But he is still valuable to china.   It's not just the Chinese don't want millions of refugees.   That's just a face saving excuse for propping up a despotic regime in the name of humanitarianism.    The fear of flood of refugees is not completely fictitious.  But china could easily seal the border.

The real reason even a recalcitrant North Korea is valuable to china is simply it saves china the expense and bad publicity of occupying party of Korea while still securely keeping the Americans far away.

Bullshit. 

If he was not being controlled by China, then why did they vote with us for more sanctions?

The Kim family is not interested in a war. Again, they are only interested in keeping power. The have been bluffing for decades.

And again, nobody has offered me anything new here that Obama, Bush Jr, Bill Clinton, Bush Sr, Reagan, Carter, Ford, Nixon, JFK ect have all also had to deal with North Korea.

If you are foolish enough to think 45 can do any better, sorry, no polite way to put it, you are playing with fire and supporting a dangerous madman.

We knock the Kim family out China is going to compete to fill that void we create, which will cause us to go to war with China.

Now, unless 45 can make some deal with them then it is pointless and dangerous to bust NK up.

If he was being controlled by china, then china wouldn't need to get into a situation where they have to vote with the US to ambargo it.

North Korean nuclear capability encourages the development of countermeasures by Japan and the US that necessarily also degrade the effectiveness of China's own nuclear arsenal.

If china had any decisive influence in North Korea, North Korea would never be allowed to develop nuclear weapons.  North Korean nuclear weapons weakens china relative to the US.   BUT, North Korean nuclear weapons do not weaken china as much as a complete collapse of North Korea would weaken china.   This is why china would continue to prop up North Korea even though North Korea substantially harmed China's position in the world.