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Isn't it funny...
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RE: Isn't it funny...
(August 12, 2017 at 9:32 am)Mister Agenda Wrote:
(August 11, 2017 at 9:02 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: If evolution is God ordained, seems like a 'heads up' on the topic might have found it's way into Scripture.


(IOW, I am again concerned about your possibility of Salvation given your tendency towards subtle heresy)

Blush

CL's understanding is right in line with Catholic doctrine.

Well....now.

It didn't start off that way...........

Quote:On the Origin of Species was published in 1859, during the papacy of Pope Pius IX, who defined dogmatically papal infallibility during the First Vatican Council in 1869–70. The council has a section on "Faith and Reason" that includes the following on science and faith:
Quote:9. Hence all faithful Christians are forbidden to defend as the legitimate conclusions of science those opinions which are known to be contrary to the doctrine of faith, particularly if they have been condemned by the Church; and furthermore they are absolutely bound to hold them to be errors which wear the deceptive appearance of truth. ... 10. Not only can faith and reason never be at odds with one another but they mutually support each other, for on the one hand right reason established the foundations of the faith and, illuminated by its light, develops the science of divine things; on the other hand, faith delivers reason from errors and protects it and furnishes it with knowledge of many kinds.
— Vatican Council I
On God the Creator, the Vatican Council was very clear. The definitions preceding the "anathema" (as a technical term of Catholic theology, let him be "cut off" or excommunicated, cf. Galatians 1:6–9; Titus 3:10–11; Matthew 18:15–17) signify an infallible doctrine of the Catholic Faith (De Fide):
On God the creator of all things
  1. If anyone denies the one true God, creator and lord of things visible and invisible: let him be anathema.

In 1870 that church would have tied her to a stake and lit the fire if they thought they could get away with it!  It didn't change until 1950.


Quote:Pope Pius XII's encyclical of 1950, Humani generis, was the first encyclical to specifically refer to evolution, and took up a neutral position, again concentrating on human evolution:

The Church does not forbid that ... research and discussions, on the part of men experienced in both fields, take place with regard to the doctrine of evolution, in as far as it inquires into the origin of the human body as coming from pre-existent and living matter.

Such is the "universal" and "unchanging" word of god!
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Isn't it funny... - by pabsta - August 11, 2017 at 3:49 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by FatAndFaithless - August 11, 2017 at 3:50 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by Cyberman - August 11, 2017 at 3:59 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by vorlon13 - August 11, 2017 at 4:10 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by Cyberman - August 11, 2017 at 4:19 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by Minimalist - August 11, 2017 at 4:20 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by Mister Agenda - August 11, 2017 at 4:51 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by Chad32 - August 11, 2017 at 4:54 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by Mister Agenda - August 11, 2017 at 4:57 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by Cyberman - August 11, 2017 at 5:05 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by Mister Agenda - August 11, 2017 at 5:17 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by pabsta - August 12, 2017 at 2:47 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by Succubus - August 12, 2017 at 5:55 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by Cyberman - August 12, 2017 at 7:05 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by Astreja - August 12, 2017 at 6:24 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by Harry Nevis - August 14, 2017 at 8:48 am
RE: Isn't it funny... - by Crossless2.0 - August 11, 2017 at 5:37 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by Mister Agenda - August 11, 2017 at 5:38 pm
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RE: Isn't it funny... - by Succubus - August 11, 2017 at 7:42 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by Whateverist - August 11, 2017 at 8:07 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by Astonished - August 11, 2017 at 8:24 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by vorlon13 - August 11, 2017 at 8:34 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by Catholic_Lady - August 11, 2017 at 8:42 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by Minimalist - August 11, 2017 at 9:17 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by Whateverist - August 14, 2017 at 10:48 am
RE: Isn't it funny... - by vorlon13 - August 11, 2017 at 8:54 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by Catholic_Lady - August 11, 2017 at 8:55 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by vorlon13 - August 11, 2017 at 9:02 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by Catholic_Lady - August 11, 2017 at 9:09 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by Mister Agenda - August 12, 2017 at 9:32 am
RE: Isn't it funny... - by Catholic_Lady - August 12, 2017 at 1:21 pm
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RE: Isn't it funny... - by Minimalist - August 11, 2017 at 9:11 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by vorlon13 - August 11, 2017 at 9:17 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by Catholic_Lady - August 11, 2017 at 9:22 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by Astonished - August 11, 2017 at 9:58 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by vorlon13 - August 11, 2017 at 9:19 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by Amarok - August 11, 2017 at 9:25 pm
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RE: Isn't it funny... - by vorlon13 - August 12, 2017 at 1:20 am
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RE: Isn't it funny... - by vorlon13 - August 12, 2017 at 9:00 am
RE: Isn't it funny... - by Pat Mustard - August 12, 2017 at 9:03 am
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RE: Isn't it funny... - by vorlon13 - August 12, 2017 at 9:36 am
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RE: Isn't it funny... - by Succubus - August 13, 2017 at 8:19 pm
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RE: Isn't it funny... - by Cyberman - August 13, 2017 at 6:12 pm
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RE: Isn't it funny... - by Ravenshire - August 15, 2017 at 1:24 am
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RE: Isn't it funny... - by The Grand Nudger - August 14, 2017 at 2:27 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by Cyberman - August 14, 2017 at 2:39 pm
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RE: Isn't it funny... - by Dropship - August 14, 2017 at 10:34 pm
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RE: Isn't it funny... - by Astonished - August 14, 2017 at 10:41 pm
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RE: Isn't it funny... - by Whateverist - August 15, 2017 at 2:18 pm
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RE: Isn't it funny... - by Fr33Th1nker - August 15, 2017 at 12:57 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by Harry Nevis - August 15, 2017 at 1:29 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by vorlon13 - August 14, 2017 at 11:02 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by Astonished - August 14, 2017 at 11:48 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by Fr33Th1nker - August 15, 2017 at 1:45 pm
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RE: Isn't it funny... - by Astonished - August 15, 2017 at 11:35 am
RE: Isn't it funny... - by Fr33Th1nker - August 15, 2017 at 2:26 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by Whateverist - August 15, 2017 at 2:54 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by Fr33Th1nker - August 15, 2017 at 2:59 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by Joods - August 15, 2017 at 6:51 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by Astonished - August 15, 2017 at 3:05 pm
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RE: Isn't it funny... - by Catholic_Lady - August 15, 2017 at 3:12 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by Astonished - August 15, 2017 at 3:17 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by FatAndFaithless - August 15, 2017 at 3:12 pm
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RE: Isn't it funny... - by Cyberman - August 15, 2017 at 6:23 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by Minimalist - August 15, 2017 at 9:09 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by The Valkyrie - August 15, 2017 at 9:12 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by The Grand Nudger - August 16, 2017 at 4:07 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by Astonished - August 17, 2017 at 9:33 am
RE: Isn't it funny... - by Dropship - August 18, 2017 at 1:51 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by Cyberman - August 18, 2017 at 2:02 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by Astonished - August 18, 2017 at 5:29 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by Succubus - August 20, 2017 at 10:42 pm
RE: Isn't it funny... - by Astonished - August 21, 2017 at 12:11 am
RE: Isn't it funny... - by The Grand Nudger - August 20, 2017 at 10:37 pm

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