(August 16, 2017 at 1:32 pm)Drich Wrote:
(August 15, 2017 at 4:22 pm)Crossless2.0 Wrote: Precisely.
It takes a considerable amount of willful stupidity to think this was ever anything else. So of course Trump's slack-jawed supporters will clap and bark on cue, as the Great Leader pats himself on the back for forcing Kim to do what he was always going to do anyway.
Again.. provide one instance where we/obama or bush told Un to back down and He did.
Dude never backed down because he thought china always would have his back.
"Trump's rhetoric" has unnerved the Chinese enough to tell either side if the start something China will not back them. Trump bluff/rhetoric says he does not care, which has china doubble down on sanctions to north korea and start moving from them. It is this pressure that has UN backing down, not because he was going to anyway.
Think about it.. why would UN uset the only country willing to deal with Him if he was always planning to back down?
When it came to his development of ICBMs and nuclear weapons, you're right -- he never backed down. But that's not the context of my remark.
With respect to Kim's bluster about attacking Guam, do you really think he meant to do that (knowing the consequences) and only backed down because of Trump's public bellicosity? Seriously?!?
Provide one instance when the U.S. has removed the nuclear option from the table in the event of a nuclear attack or a conventional-weapons attack via ICBMs from North Korea or anyone else.
Kim got what he thinks he needs to prevent attack/invasion from his enemies and secure his regime: an overwhelming deterrent. That is what has motivated N. Korea's nuclear program from the start. Whether Trump or another occupied the White House, do you really think Kim was going to go to the trouble of developing this capability, only to use it with the knowledge that he would destroy his regime in the process?