(July 30, 2011 at 12:19 am)FaithNoMore Wrote: Why don't you tell us what science is for then.
Science is used to establish probabilities through observation based on induction. We can then use these probabilities to make predictions due to the uniformity that nature possesses. It is not used to discern truth though deduction, that's the job of logic. I am a bit surprised to see so many on here holding to the philosophy of empiricism, it was abandoned a while ago I had believed.
(July 30, 2011 at 4:30 am)Ace Otana Wrote: That's funny. I remember the last time we debated and the performance you gave. You demonstrated why creationists are a complete waste of time! You're the one who refused to actually fucking debate! Remember?
Your memory seems a bit questionable, it was you who claimed to be folllowing in the footsteps of Dawkins by avoiding debates with Creationists, I never avoid debates on here, you should know that by now.
(July 30, 2011 at 8:01 am)Rhythm Wrote: "Science's Job" is never done on a subject. There is no point where a philosophical argument will ever have more weight than scientific observation. No matter how reasoned our argument, no matter how tight our logic, in the end, it must be fact checked. Guess who does this sort of thing?
This is quite amusing Rhythm, you are bashing on philosophy by apparently adhering to the philosophy of empiricism (all truth claims are established through observation).
(July 30, 2011 at 9:42 am)MilesTailsPrower Wrote: Could you think of 1 thing science can't explain? Can it explain why you failed to spell attempt wrong?
There are thousands of things science cannot explain! A great example would be the justification of science itself, are you really going to use science to justify using science? Circular argument alert. Another good one would be logical and mathematical truths, science presupposes these truths in order to operate so it cannot be used to justify or explain them. Another one would be the reliability of a person’s senses; you cannot prove your senses are reliable without first assuming they are. Science is full of presuppositions it cannot be used to prove, hence why empiricism is a fatally flawed philosophy.
