(August 17, 2017 at 3:41 pm)Astreja Wrote:(August 17, 2017 at 3:25 pm)Godscreated Wrote: I do not need the your sympathy and I'm in touch with reality and morality. By the way god does not torture you choose it.
No, you're completely full of crap morality-wise.
It is impossible for me to be held responsible for being thrown into hell if your god holds 100% of the power. A basic tenet of managerial theory is that you can only delegate responsibility if you also assign the power to fulfill that responsibility. No sane person would choose eternal torture, and you should fucking well know that.
"You send yourself to hell" is just a sweet little lie you and other Christians tell yourselves so that you won't have to face the fact that you are deliberately worshipping an infinitely evil god, and to shirk the responsibility for the threats that you (not your imaginary friend) use to terrorize other people into following your sick-minded human sacrifice cult.
May you have sweat-drenched, waking-up-screaming nightmares of your most precious loved ones in the flames to which you so blithely condemn others, and may those nightmares change your love of your god into an implacable hatred and then lifelong disbelief.
God doesn't work by human rules and you should know that. God holds no power over your choice of salvation or hell, this is one thing where you have total freedom. If you do not want to be with Him for eternity He will grant your desire, but that choice has consequences to it. I only bring up hell when it enters the conversation, meaning usually the other person brings it up first. I do not use it as a threat, how could I, I can't send you to hell and the Bible doesn't use it as a threat, hell is there to remind people that it exists and is the alternative decision to salvation. I wouldn't wish that last sentence in bold by me on anyone, that's how Christianity works. Even if I had a nightmare like that it would not sway my belief because of my love and devotion to God and I know almost all my family is saved.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.