(August 2, 2011 at 4:59 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Just out of curiosity, how would you even attempt to scientifically verify or falsify that a burning bush spoke to Moses 3,500 years ago? Seems to me that you are asking for a bit much there, not all claims are verified scientifically, particularly those that are said to be miraculous and by nature defy scientific observations. I believe the accounts in the Bible because it is God's revealed nature and God does not lie. Interesting conversation though.
With great difficulty, even at the time. Now, almost impossible. However, to claim that it DID happen still requires evidence. If that means we have to leave that particular example, then we do. The fact that it hasn't once happened since the time that reliable records have been kept (and didn't happen in a place at that time where records were already kept, such as China) is very suspicious though. I'm happy to say that I cannot outright disprove that a bush caught fire and spoke once, but since it contradicts everything we know about what things do (humans) and do not (everything else) talk, as well as the conditions required for things to catch fire, I don't feel like I need to speak further on it.
However, with reference to something like a huge flood said to have taken place circa 6000 years ago, there would be enormous amounts of evidence for something like that. And any claim to evidence that has been made has been refuted, and unlike the burning bush, we can indeed disprove it utterly, by looking at layers of sediment, carbon dating of materials, argon-potassium dating, distribution of animals and so on.
You're a nice guy SW, and I'm enjoying this conversation, but your last bit there worries me and is going to take this thread off topic if we continue. Always ask 'why?'. Why do you believe the accounts are God's revealed nature? Why do you believe he does not lie? So many things from the Bible have been proven inaccurate already, he's either lying or, at best, being misrepresented.