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Clinton Interview
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RE: Clinton Interview
There's been some focus on Bernie Sanders in this go round.  In Shattered, Bernie's (and his campaign) actions were presented, but no evaluation of them were made by the authors (Hillary's/staff reactions were noted)

Hillary has a point of sorts in criticizing Bernie in the regards he would not concede to the inevitable Convention win of Hillary, with the stated goal of building support for moving the platform in his direction further than if he conceded as soon as the math was no longer there for the nomination.  Bernie's supporters were also noted as solidly behind Bernie whether he was nominated or not, and Bernie seemed to have little control/influence with them in cultivating support for Hillary when she was nominated.

I'd note amelioration in criticism, however, since the party hierarchy itself was (wisely) chartered to provide a fair primary environment and yet failed publicly and notoriously to do so.  And that is regardless of how 'inevitable' any particular outcome might have been seen beforehand.  It's one thing to 'inevitably' lose in a FAIR fight, and as many people who should have known beforehand, (but obviously didn't) it's quite another thing entirely to garner the same outcome in a fight that was demonstrably NOT fair. Even more foolishly, such chicanery and perfidy reinforced widely known perceptions of 'special rules' applying to Hillary only.

As for 'collusion' between the Sanders and Trump campaigns, while it is easy to see how it really looked that way, an active program in both campaigns fostering/managing 'collusion' was not necessary. The Trump campaign just had to 'echo' complaints and concerns Bernie was voicing about Hillary, no back channel coordinating of such things was necessary, just savvy staffers in Trumpworld reading the newspapers and watching TV coverage of the campaign. Hell, it would have been stupid to not repeat Bernie's points concerning Hillary that were compatible with the Trump platform. I probably don't need to go into too much detail in Hillary herself providing so much grist for Bernie in this regard, either.
 The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it. 




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Clinton Interview - by Thumpalumpacus - September 12, 2017 at 8:05 am
RE: Clinton Interview - by dyresand - September 13, 2017 at 11:33 am
RE: Clinton Interview - by Minimalist - September 13, 2017 at 12:24 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Redbeard The Pink - September 13, 2017 at 7:30 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Whateverist - September 13, 2017 at 1:18 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Minimalist - September 13, 2017 at 1:20 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Tiberius - September 13, 2017 at 1:49 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Iroscato - September 13, 2017 at 3:44 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Minimalist - September 13, 2017 at 2:06 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by vorlon13 - September 13, 2017 at 3:21 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Tiberius - September 13, 2017 at 3:49 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Minimalist - September 13, 2017 at 4:20 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Thumpalumpacus - September 13, 2017 at 3:51 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by TheBeardedDude - September 13, 2017 at 4:04 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Whateverist - September 13, 2017 at 4:10 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by TheBeardedDude - September 13, 2017 at 4:12 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Whateverist - September 13, 2017 at 4:27 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by TheBeardedDude - September 13, 2017 at 4:31 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Whateverist - September 13, 2017 at 4:42 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by vorlon13 - September 13, 2017 at 4:52 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Thumpalumpacus - September 13, 2017 at 7:33 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by vorlon13 - September 13, 2017 at 4:23 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by TheBeardedDude - September 13, 2017 at 4:24 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Minimalist - September 13, 2017 at 4:33 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by TheBeardedDude - September 13, 2017 at 4:34 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by vorlon13 - September 13, 2017 at 4:57 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by vorlon13 - September 13, 2017 at 4:31 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Whateverist - September 13, 2017 at 4:57 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Clueless Morgan - September 13, 2017 at 7:17 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Tiberius - September 14, 2017 at 2:00 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Minimalist - September 14, 2017 at 2:43 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Tiberius - September 14, 2017 at 10:28 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Thumpalumpacus - September 14, 2017 at 6:26 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Europa! - September 14, 2017 at 6:29 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Thumpalumpacus - September 14, 2017 at 8:32 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Puke Skywalker - September 14, 2017 at 10:58 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by AFTT47 - September 15, 2017 at 1:33 am
RE: Clinton Interview - by chimp3 - September 15, 2017 at 5:07 am
RE: Clinton Interview - by Whateverist - September 15, 2017 at 7:49 am
RE: Clinton Interview - by The Grand Nudger - September 15, 2017 at 8:02 am
RE: Clinton Interview - by Clueless Morgan - September 15, 2017 at 10:27 am
RE: Clinton Interview - by Europa! - September 15, 2017 at 9:51 am
RE: Clinton Interview - by Fireball - September 15, 2017 at 9:58 am
RE: Clinton Interview - by Divinity - September 15, 2017 at 12:18 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by The Grand Nudger - September 15, 2017 at 12:34 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Clueless Morgan - September 15, 2017 at 2:55 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by vorlon13 - September 15, 2017 at 7:35 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Clueless Morgan - September 15, 2017 at 8:18 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Whateverist - September 15, 2017 at 8:59 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by Fireball - September 15, 2017 at 8:50 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by vorlon13 - September 15, 2017 at 9:25 pm
RE: Clinton Interview - by The Grand Nudger - September 16, 2017 at 12:35 am

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