(September 13, 2017 at 3:48 pm)Whateverist Wrote:What I am doing is challenging you to accept that either the symbolic expression of the PNC refers to something objectively true about the world or it doesn't. There are inevitable logical consequences to either position.(September 13, 2017 at 3:04 pm)Khemikal Wrote: -and the study of what happens in it. The very moment that the "supernatural" world presents itself in the natural world...as every adherent of every religion insists has happened so very many times...they are no longer separate.
This, assuming, that they're both fields at all, rather than one being the rationalizations for your silly beliefs.
Yeah, the main point being that we are all aware of a natural world. No one alive knows -except perhaps by faith (whatever that means)- what 'supernatural' means. That is simply hypothetical for all intents and purposes.
So science is the study of the empirical world and theology is the study of a system of beliefs with an alleged connection to a hypothetical and entirely undiscoverable separate realm. That's more than apples and oranges. That's apples and Smurfs.
(September 13, 2017 at 3:36 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: You do realize, don't you, that you are arguing against the intelligibility of reality and the efficacy of reason? Would the principle of noncontradiction be true even if no sentient being existed to express it symbolically?
You do realize you are pointing to a logical inconsistency arising in the way we use language to describe the world, and then throwing up your hands and asking what else could account for that apart from something 'supernatural'?
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