RE: Religion and Science are 1000% Opposite
September 14, 2017 at 6:36 pm
(This post was last modified: September 14, 2017 at 6:40 pm by Whateverist.)
(September 14, 2017 at 5:08 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:(September 13, 2017 at 8:19 pm)Whateverist Wrote: Maybe they're real human constructs that map to the empirical world real well. Those don't seem like mutually exclusive choices.
If a human construct actually maps onto the empirical real world, then there is some real object in or feature of the empirical world capable of being mapped. Otherwise you have an invented set of symbols that only accidentally reflects phenomenal experience, i.e. there is no essential reason for their correspondence. Now that could indeed be the case, but that is the stance that the world is unintelligible.
But those real objects for which our mathematics map so well are not mathematical objects. The symbol is not the object.
(September 14, 2017 at 5:08 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:(September 13, 2017 at 8:19 pm)Whateverist Wrote: Maybe they're real human constructs that map to the empirical world real well. Those don't seem like mutually exclusive choices.
If a human construct actually maps onto the empirical real world, then there is some real object in or feature of the empirical world capable of being mapped. Otherwise you have an invented set of symbols that only accidentally reflects phenomenal experience, i.e. there is no essential reason for their correspondence. Now that could indeed be the case, but that is the stance that the world is unintelligible.
Better answer: this goes back to all the other 'fortuitous' results of evolution. The poor mappers have bit the dust. We are the winner's inheritors.