theVoid,
If you bother to read labour history you will appreciate that real improvements in pay and conditions in the workplace were hard-won through collective struggle by organised labour, often at great cost to union activists. Ever heard of the Tolpuddle Martyrs for example? You will also discover about exploitation, for example the use of child-labour in mines, mills, brickworks, potteries and factories over a very long period until it was ended in the UK by the 1918 Education Act, or the mill or pit owner living a life of luxury whilst the very workers who generated the wealth led a life of meagre existence and premature death as a result of their toil.
You must look back way before the 1970's, young man, to appreciate the struggles that have gone before, but I suspect you will simply discount labour history as irrelevant.
Me authoritarian? On this issue you may call me that, if you choose to. Frankly, I don't give a fuck for your opinions of me personally or your world view. I find you quite unpleasant to debate with.
I maintain that where a closed shop is in operation and you want a job there, you join the union or fuck off somewhere else if that don't suit ya.
And don't be telling me " freeloaders " is a fantasy, sonny----- I've been around a lot longer than you have.
Finally, if you don't like the idea of workers uniting, tough shit, you'll just have to live with it, cause it happens. Not as much as I would wish but it still happens and always will.
If you bother to read labour history you will appreciate that real improvements in pay and conditions in the workplace were hard-won through collective struggle by organised labour, often at great cost to union activists. Ever heard of the Tolpuddle Martyrs for example? You will also discover about exploitation, for example the use of child-labour in mines, mills, brickworks, potteries and factories over a very long period until it was ended in the UK by the 1918 Education Act, or the mill or pit owner living a life of luxury whilst the very workers who generated the wealth led a life of meagre existence and premature death as a result of their toil.
You must look back way before the 1970's, young man, to appreciate the struggles that have gone before, but I suspect you will simply discount labour history as irrelevant.
Me authoritarian? On this issue you may call me that, if you choose to. Frankly, I don't give a fuck for your opinions of me personally or your world view. I find you quite unpleasant to debate with.
I maintain that where a closed shop is in operation and you want a job there, you join the union or fuck off somewhere else if that don't suit ya.
And don't be telling me " freeloaders " is a fantasy, sonny----- I've been around a lot longer than you have.
Finally, if you don't like the idea of workers uniting, tough shit, you'll just have to live with it, cause it happens. Not as much as I would wish but it still happens and always will.
A man is born to a virgin mother, lives, dies, comes alive again and then disappears into the clouds to become his Dad. How likely is that?
