(September 21, 2017 at 8:18 pm)A Theist Wrote:(September 21, 2017 at 5:59 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Getting rid of that regime with military actions would be a victory in name only. The human tragedy that would follow would be on a scale rarely seen in history.
In a way, that would be too much victory.
It will not happen. China will not allow it, and the fact is that they can, will, and indeed have fought to keep their buffer state. Given that, we will not launch a war, Trump's bluster notwithstanding. He's a businessman and a deal-maker. Let's see him back that up with a deal. A shooting war will be a loss for everyone involved
Even though they want the buffer state I think regardless, even China's fed up with the Kim regime. Could be that China may even be looking to undermine Kim from within NOKO and replacing it with a puppet regime that they could keep on a much shorter leash. China has financial interests through trade with the U.S. and others to allow Kim to put it in jeopardy.
I agree that Beijing is tired of the bullshit too. I don't agree that it is a matter of any action by Trump, which was the crux of my disagreement. I think one reason China is so irritated with NK is that the NK diplomat tasked with handling Chinese relations was executed a couple of years ago, and then the murder last year by nerve gas of another of their NK contacts has them understanding that their own plans may be running aground. Trump, Obama, Bush, that doesn't matter.
I think their plans for puppeteering took an arrow to the knee, and as a result the Chinese are withdrawing support -- they are trying to remind Un how much he needs them.
