(August 5, 2011 at 6:51 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Actually in debate ad Hominem does detract from your other points.
I make legitimate points against your arguments which you routinely ignore in favour of complaining about my language towards you. The fact that I call you a moron in the same post as pointing out a flaw in your logic does not make your logic less flawed.
(August 5, 2011 at 6:51 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Oh good, so you should given a logical proof or convincing scientific evidence for the following, because I know you believe them...
Laws of logic exist
Your senses are generally reliable
The things you remember really did happen
Scientific laws that exist today will still exist tomorrow
The list goes on, but you wanted it kept short.
Sigh.
- The laws of logic are independent of the universe, its physical properties, and its purpose or reason for creation. It is impossible to find scientific evidence for or against logic because it's as conceptual as, say, the number 2. Nothing about the universe can change the fact that 2 = 2.
- It's not so much that I believe this implicitly as that I don't see the point in trying to live in any other world but the one my senses tell me I am in. I derive my pain, hope, fear, sadness, whatever from my senses, ignoring them can't change that, so why would I? My senses are as real as I am.
- Actually, I do believe the human memory is not infallible, so I won't refute this point.
- I make no assumptions about scientific laws other than that they describe the way the world works. If the world suddenly starts working in a different way tomorrow, I will revise which laws of science I believe to be accurate.
(August 5, 2011 at 6:51 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: No, I trust my own senses, but that's because I have a Biblical basis to do so. You do not have any foundation for trusting yours. I see you completely missed my point about light and the blind.
You read the Bible with your senses. If your senses were fallible, the only reason you believe them to be infallible would not exist. I detect circular reasoning.
(August 5, 2011 at 6:51 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: The fact that you have to borrow from my worldview everyday is destroying it quite nicely.
I do? Please explain. I don't know what your world view is other than logic and reason don't figure in it - how could I borrow from it?