(September 25, 2017 at 6:13 pm)SaStrike Wrote:(September 25, 2017 at 3:46 pm)BlindedWantsToSee Wrote: To me, denying the existence of intelligence in life, or the world, or the universe, or in energy is like denying the presence of coldness in a glass of iced tea that's full of ice.
So, intelligence exists.
We know that everything is made of matter and energy that's constantly changing form.
Logical deduction: intelligence is made of energy and matter.
Also logical deduction: energy and matter have the capacity to take the form of intelligence, and in fact they do.
But you know what? It really does not matter whether it is intelligence, or stupidity, or madness, or evil, or chaos, or something else that is causing the current state of affairs to be what it is. Something is causing our lives, the world, and the whole universe to be what they are. Out of the 7 billion human lives in the world the great majority lives in hardship. Out of the ones that have their material needs met, the majority do not know how to live happily. Whatever is causing all this suffering is not good. It has been doing what it does, for a long time, and it is not going to stop. I believe that even fortunate or privileged people at some time will eventually fall victims to the cruelty of life. That's the idea I want to convey.
Take what you like out of this, or don't take any of it. What we believe or dont believe, or what we understand or fail to understand doesn't change reality. It is what it is (unless we do something about it, of course).
Seems to me it's as if you expect life to be bliss or something. Again, perhaps from being taught about heaven earlier in life? Yes life is not fair or ideal or perfect, but mass suicide? Really? Isn't that more like running away from the problem instead of trying to fix it? Also I don't see how this is on the universal scale. This is small scale earthly life you're talking about. So why is all the energy in the entire universe intelligent and evil or sick or psychotic? Those are just human conditions and words.
Religion tends to put humanity as the centre of the universe and the special children that deserve eternal happiness. You are sort of doing that in your theory. If we didnt have to eat animals or plants would you be ok? If we were to eat rocks for example? Just curious.
I have high standards! I really do not see a good reason for me or anyone else to have to experience misery, other than "that's just the way life is". Yup, that's the way life is, and it is wrong. I don't think we should put up with it.
Mass suicide, nope! I'm only trying to help those who have no reason to stick around, to leave their misery or the meaninglessness of their lives behind. It's OK if they do. I've seen much unnecessary suffering in my lifetime. I have compassion, and I am trying to reduce this. If everybody wants to commit mass suicide, honestly, I think they would be better off, but there are other things to try. I don't believe any other solution will be effective though. it makes no difference to me what people do, only to them. When I am ready to go, I will go, and I will not come back. Nothing will matter to me. Yeah, yeah, you don't believe in reincarnation, but I have seen and heard convincing testimony. I think is a decision we make at some point. We will see...
There is nothing we can do to fix the problem. The problem is bigger and stronger than all of us put together. All of recorded history gives testimony of that. Again, we will see....
You probably don't believe in life in other planets, and I am not trying to convince you, but I am just telling you that there is much evidence that indicates there is life in other parts of the universe, and that they have the same problems we do. The Sumerians, over 6,000 years ago, wrote an account of beings from another planet that came to earth, set up shop, genetically engineered human beings to serve as their slaves, took most of the gold from earth, and left; leaving their hybrid offspring to rule over humanity. If you are interested, get a hold of "The Lost Book of Enki" by Zechariah Sitchin.
I would not like anybody, thing, animal, or anything else to eat me. I believe it would be wrong because it would hurt me, or it would take from me what is mine only. I believe that the same holds true for all other sentient beings and all other life. So, yes, I would feel better if I did not have to take/destroy/eat a life that does not belong to me so that I can sustain my own. This is disgusting to me. It is what it is, until we do something about it...


