(September 27, 2017 at 8:13 am)SteveII Wrote:(September 27, 2017 at 3:03 am)Succubus Wrote: Omnipotence means exactly what it says on the tin, unlimited power. Can god make a rock so big he can't lift it? Of course he can, and he can lift that rock and throw it right into the next galaxy.
No, don't ask me, ask a priest. It was your church that gave god so many ridiculous attributes.
No, that is not what omnipotence means. Your comment is a great example of not actually understanding Christianity but certain that you do.
Quote:The term omnipotent has been used to connote a number of different positions. These positions include, but are not limited to, the following:
Under many philosophical definitions of the term "deity", senses 2, 3 and 4 can be shown to be equivalent.
- A deity is able to do anything that it chooses to do.[1]
- A deity is able to do anything that is in accord with its own nature (thus, for instance, if it is a logical consequence of a deity's nature that what it speaks is truth, then it is not able to lie).
- Hold that it is part of a deity's nature to be consistent and that it would be inconsistent for said deity to go against its own laws unless there was a reason to do so.[2]
- A deity can bring about any state of affairs which is logically possible for anyone to bring about in that situation.
- A deity is able to do anything that corresponds with its omniscience and therefore with its worldplan.
- Every action performed in the world is 'actually' being performed by the deity, either due to omni-immanence, or because all actions must be 'supported' or 'permitted' by the deity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnipotence#Meanings
Guess what? Christianity doesn't get to define words for their own use. And if you claim you KNOW the limits of god's omnipotence, you're making it up as you go along. And "deity" has no application outside of religion, so don't try and claim that the dictionary proves god.
"The last superstition of the human mind is the superstition that religion in itself is a good thing." - Samuel Porter Putnam