(October 3, 2017 at 5:44 am)Tazzycorn Wrote:(October 3, 2017 at 4:54 am)pool the matey Wrote: Okay, okay, I see the angle you're coming from. But I think the freedom to wear whatever should be left to the person wearing it. If women are forced to not wear a burqa it will definitely be dictating their attire,
But the thing is, those women don't have that right. Wearing the burqa is a thing forced on women in muslim countries, and by muslim society in non-muslim ones.
Sure, I can imagine Muslim countries forcing its citizens to adhere to religious values (Muslim religious values) by law(hence why they're called Muslim countries), I agree with that.
Quote:and by muslim society in non-muslim ones.
This is the one part I don't agree with. Look, I grew up among Blacks, whites, Jews, Christians, Muslims, Hindus, atheists( probably Satanists) too I didn't even like consciously think that there even are these subgroups until AFTER college, I just had friends, you know? I didn't have 'Muslim friends', my friend just happened to be Muslim(but suddenly I see people talking about how they have 'black friends', 'white friends', 'Muslim friends' etc and it's a bit weird).
Anyway my point is I've had all kinds of friends including Muslims (both men and women) ALL my life. Muslim women have no problem dressing just like everybody else, go places like everybody else, flirt like everybody else. Although I don't live in a Muslim country I do live in a country that is considered as a third world country.
So as someone that has lived his whole life in a non Muslim third world country why should I believe the societal pressure of Muslim communities in Muslim women in FIRST world Developed non Muslim countries are far more greater? How do you know this? I'm trying to understand what societal level pressure this is that is so great so as to FORCE women to wear burqa(I've never seen this level of societal pressure even in my country), I mean this societal pressure have to be so extreme that it exceeds legality. I'm not understanding this why does it HAVE to be someone behind the scenes FORCING them? Maybe they just like wearing it, maybe they're proud they're muslims and want to showcase it, I mean I can understand if you walk up to a woman wearing a burqa and asks her "why are you wearing this" and she replies in tears "these assholes are forcing me, I don't even want to, please help me", then I understand that, you know? But to proclaim that ALL Muslim women are for sure being oh so oppressed and just hoping that some big strong warrior (the charming price ofc) comes and save them is just absurd delusion in my opinion and in my experience. I'm sure if I tell 5 of my Muslim women friends that "Westerners force others to not wear burqa because they think it's best for them" they will say "oh they can fuck off" in unity, they won't for example be so touched that someone would care oh so much and like Hypothetically fall in endless love with them, you know?
