(October 3, 2017 at 9:36 am)Bob Kelso Wrote:(October 3, 2017 at 8:54 am)Brian37 Wrote: ARGGGGGGG
Religiously justified sexism EXISTS, in EVERY religion worldwide, to greater or lesser degrees depending on sect and or individual family.
Conservative Jews a couple years back in Israel, held back a passenger jet because their asshole sexist men refused to sit next to women on the flight.
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/10/us/ab...igion.html
Not even Buddhism escapes this.
https://vimeo.com/131814486
Now again, I don't point this out as some sort of call to end all religions, but merely to point out that these things happen because humans falsely attribute their morality as coming from their label/holy writings. Our species ability to be cruel or compassionate is not in our labels, but in our evolution, and men, regardless of nationality or religion, are quite capable of being sexist fucks.
Yes Christianity, like Islam has members whom read their holy writings to justify sexism, but that is not a patent held by one religion. Sexism exists in every religion.
Brian, dude, do you need a xanax? We were specifically talking about burqas and Pool brought up the Christian version in the OP. No one said anything about oppression being a quality of only the two mentioned. I mean what the fuck is this?
I don't need a chill pill.
I do get frustrated that the long term picture in our entire species history of written religion gets missed. That's all.
When you consider antiquity, this applies worldwide. Back then humans had no clue what DNA was. All anyone knew back then was men had brawn, and men were considered the head of the house, and just like the kings they lived under, they saw women/girls as things to be bartered. The idea of bonding between families was done through the bartering of females.
That was the case even in polytheism, even in Buddhism and Hinduism. Humans simply had no concept of female equality.
And even in polytheism, if you average out all the male gods vs female goddesses you still have a male domination going on.
Even when taking gods out of it, even in Buddhism, there still is no opportunity for a female to become the next Dali Lama, just like you wont see a female Pope.
I don't bring this up to call for an end to religion, but to point out the ignorance of antiquity. Female equality is a recent push in the west and it came about in spite of religion, not because of it.
Point to my response to you is that I agree, Christians have their sexists like Islam does, but again, there are more than 2 religions and every religion has it's pockets of sexist men to greater or lesser degrees. Gender clothing is one aspect of how sexism get's perpetuated.
I am not blowing a gasket. If you want that, point to the people who get mad because you point out the sexist roots of the Burka. All I said is sexism exists worldwide.