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RE: Ask a CL
(October 8, 2017 at 3:35 am)pocaracas Wrote:
(October 7, 2017 at 11:18 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Separating out the procreative aspect from sex. With timed abstinence you just don't have sex during the fertile week when you're trying to avoid pregnancy, which is fine

My wife decided to do that.
Ended up being far far more than just one week per month... And, after about a year, she was pregnant with our 4th kid, after some 7 years of me telling her that I didn't want any more kids. And, of course, by now, my opinion on what to do meant jack shit.

So... Suffice to say that that doesn't work.

Quote:. But when you take the pill or use a condom, you introduce something into the sex itself to render it sterile.

Still... Condoms worked well for a number of years.
Not ideal, I agree, but good enough.

Quote: Since we believe sex is a highly sacred thing, we think purposely changing its nature so fundamentally isn't right.

Oh, come, now... How does the pill change anything?

Quote:But that only applies to married couples. For unmarried folks, we don't think it's moral to be having sex at all, so whether or not they use artificial contraception doesn't matter. It becomes a moot point unless the couple is married.

Then it does become a moot point.
The problems begin when this distinction is not made clear to the masses. Like it wasn't in Africa and South America, where many people have multiple partners and, because of some anti-condom church based propaganda, AIDS soared to great heights.

Did she have a little machine that recorded her cycle, her temperature, and her cervical mucus? Those tend to be really reliable. My sister used it for years.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

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Ask a CL - by Catholic_Lady - October 6, 2017 at 3:57 pm
RE: Ask a CL - by vorlon13 - October 6, 2017 at 3:59 pm
RE: Ask a CL - by Catholic_Lady - October 6, 2017 at 4:00 pm
RE: Ask a CL - by FatAndFaithless - October 6, 2017 at 3:59 pm
RE: Ask a CL - by c172 - October 6, 2017 at 4:03 pm
RE: Ask a CL - by Catholic_Lady - October 6, 2017 at 4:06 pm
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RE: Ask a CL - by brewer - October 6, 2017 at 5:00 pm
RE: Ask a CL - by Catholic_Lady - October 6, 2017 at 5:02 pm
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RE: Ask a CL - by Edwardo Piet - October 6, 2017 at 10:14 pm
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RE: Ask a CL - by c172 - October 6, 2017 at 4:08 pm
RE: Ask a CL - by Catholic_Lady - October 6, 2017 at 4:12 pm
RE: Ask a CL - by vorlon13 - October 6, 2017 at 4:09 pm
RE: Ask a CL - by Catholic_Lady - October 6, 2017 at 4:14 pm
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RE: Ask a CL - by vorlon13 - October 6, 2017 at 4:18 pm
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RE: Ask a CL - by Catholic_Lady - October 6, 2017 at 4:25 pm
RE: Ask a CL - by Edwardo Piet - October 6, 2017 at 4:28 pm
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RE: Ask a CL - by Crossless2.0 - October 6, 2017 at 4:44 pm
RE: Ask a CL - by Catholic_Lady - October 6, 2017 at 4:50 pm
RE: Ask a CL - by Edwardo Piet - October 6, 2017 at 4:59 pm
RE: Ask a CL - by ignoramus - October 6, 2017 at 5:58 pm
RE: Ask a CL - by Catholic_Lady - October 6, 2017 at 6:00 pm
RE: Ask a CL - by LadyForCamus - October 6, 2017 at 8:54 pm
RE: Ask a CL - by Catholic_Lady - October 6, 2017 at 8:58 pm
RE: Ask a CL - by brewer - October 6, 2017 at 9:06 pm
RE: Ask a CL - by Minimalist - October 6, 2017 at 9:02 pm
RE: Ask a CL - by Catholic_Lady - October 6, 2017 at 9:04 pm
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RE: Ask a CL - by Catholic_Lady - October 6, 2017 at 9:10 pm
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RE: Ask a CL - by Catholic_Lady - October 6, 2017 at 10:21 pm
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RE: Ask a CL - by energizer bunny - October 6, 2017 at 11:37 pm
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RE: Ask a CL - by energizer bunny - October 7, 2017 at 1:29 am
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RE: Ask a CL - by JackRussell - October 7, 2017 at 8:33 am
RE: Ask a CL - by Edwardo Piet - October 7, 2017 at 8:35 am
RE: Ask a CL - by vorlon13 - October 7, 2017 at 10:32 am
RE: Ask a CL - by Catholic_Lady - October 7, 2017 at 10:53 am
RE: Ask a CL - by Edwardo Piet - October 7, 2017 at 2:51 pm
RE: Ask a CL - by vorlon13 - October 7, 2017 at 10:57 am
RE: Ask a CL - by pocaracas - October 7, 2017 at 11:24 am
RE: Ask a CL - by Catholic_Lady - October 7, 2017 at 11:40 am
RE: Ask a CL - by pocaracas - October 7, 2017 at 12:32 pm
RE: Ask a CL - by Kernel Sohcahtoa - October 7, 2017 at 9:49 pm
RE: Ask a CL - by Catholic_Lady - October 7, 2017 at 10:58 pm
RE: Ask a CL - by energizer bunny - October 8, 2017 at 1:53 am
RE: Ask a CL - by Puke Skywalker - October 7, 2017 at 11:55 am
RE: Ask a CL - by Catholic_Lady - October 7, 2017 at 12:01 pm
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RE: Ask a CL - by Catholic_Lady - October 7, 2017 at 1:41 pm
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RE: Ask a CL - by Catholic_Lady - October 7, 2017 at 2:06 pm
RE: Ask a CL - by Aoi Magi - October 7, 2017 at 3:43 pm
RE: Ask a CL - by Puke Skywalker - October 7, 2017 at 2:54 pm
RE: Ask a CL - by Catholic_Lady - October 7, 2017 at 3:09 pm
RE: Ask a CL - by energizer bunny - October 7, 2017 at 3:32 pm
RE: Ask a CL - by Catholic_Lady - October 7, 2017 at 3:38 pm
RE: Ask a CL - by The Valkyrie - October 7, 2017 at 3:55 pm
RE: Ask a CL - by KevinM1 - October 7, 2017 at 4:16 pm
RE: Ask a CL - by Catholic_Lady - October 7, 2017 at 4:26 pm
RE: Ask a CL - by KevinM1 - October 8, 2017 at 1:33 am
RE: Ask a CL - by LadyForCamus - October 7, 2017 at 11:07 pm
RE: Ask a CL - by Crossless2.0 - October 7, 2017 at 11:14 pm
RE: Ask a CL - by Catholic_Lady - October 7, 2017 at 11:18 pm
RE: Ask a CL - by Crossless2.0 - October 7, 2017 at 11:28 pm
RE: Ask a CL - by Catholic_Lady - October 7, 2017 at 11:32 pm
RE: Ask a CL - by Crossless2.0 - October 7, 2017 at 11:37 pm
RE: Ask a CL - by Catholic_Lady - October 7, 2017 at 11:43 pm
RE: Ask a CL - by vorlon13 - October 7, 2017 at 11:56 pm
RE: Ask a CL - by Crossless2.0 - October 8, 2017 at 12:01 am
RE: Ask a CL - by Catholic_Lady - October 8, 2017 at 12:11 am
RE: Ask a CL - by vorlon13 - October 7, 2017 at 11:41 pm
RE: Ask a CL - by Succubus - October 8, 2017 at 5:32 am
RE: Ask a CL - by Whateverist - October 8, 2017 at 12:52 am
RE: Ask a CL - by Catholic_Lady - October 8, 2017 at 12:57 am
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RE: Ask a CL - by Catholic_Lady - October 8, 2017 at 1:06 am
RE: Ask a CL - by ignoramus - October 8, 2017 at 2:37 am
RE: Ask a CL - by Catholic_Lady - October 8, 2017 at 9:31 am
RE: Ask a CL - by Whateverist - October 8, 2017 at 9:31 am
RE: Ask a CL - by pocaracas - October 8, 2017 at 3:35 am
RE: Ask a CL - by Catholic_Lady - October 8, 2017 at 9:34 am
RE: Ask a CL - by pocaracas - October 8, 2017 at 9:40 am
RE: Ask a CL - by Catholic_Lady - October 8, 2017 at 9:46 am
RE: Ask a CL - by pocaracas - October 8, 2017 at 10:32 am
RE: Ask a CL - by Crossless2.0 - October 8, 2017 at 12:19 am
RE: Ask a CL - by Minimalist - October 8, 2017 at 1:47 am
RE: Ask a CL - by ErGingerbreadMandude - October 8, 2017 at 3:02 am
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RE: Ask a CL - by Catholic_Lady - October 8, 2017 at 10:55 am
RE: Ask a CL - by pocaracas - October 8, 2017 at 11:01 am
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