RE: Irational fear of hell still naggs me from time to time
October 9, 2017 at 1:01 pm
(This post was last modified: October 9, 2017 at 1:22 pm by Drich.)
(October 7, 2017 at 8:35 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:(October 6, 2017 at 10:47 am)Drich Wrote: Do you know how I got to go?
i demanded to see it...
If you want to experience it for yourself then threaten to spit in God's eye and demand he show you what was so bad about hell. Over and over and over again. I promise you. you will see Hell. What i can't promise is a return trip home. Even so that what I did. I wanted to know the truth and I jumped off a cliff to find it. I did.
You had a stupid dream, you fucking moron. But by all means keep misrepresenting it, like the shit you are. Every time you retell one of your stories, it gets more and more fanciful. You're a piss poor liar.
yes a dream fill with details I had no knowledge of but proved to be correct/accurate about Hell.
I grew up thinking Dante's inferno was the actual official version of hell. Image my surprise when there was no saint peter, when there was no pearly gates there were no levels no tormenting demons no fire no brimstone no grand lake where we ll burn forever. My 'dream' was solace to me till I started to study what the bible actually said about hell, and it turns out I experienced what I had not know the scripture said.
I have no issue admitting it was a dream because by definition and my beginning and end points were both my bed, however this experience is seared into me like a hellva hard fought memory.
Sorry my experiences disturb some of you so much, but it is what it is. I did not make any of this up, I am simply telling you what I experienced after truly seeking God on my level of religious understanding. I kept knocking on his door till he kicked it open and showed me what I wanted to see.
Seriously this is what fuels me. or rather my regret and sorry I felt when an eternity of this torment is what I thought I would have to endure, and the thought of how much different it could be if had I only had been given a chance to know... Not through church as to me I fell through those cracks long a go and the church had become a symbol of the oppsite of what I thought God wanted. What was going to haunt me for ever was the idea of what if... Because I had come to terms with my sin and it was ok that I was in hell for that, but the ide of what if and the sweet moment/sample of God's love I felt was too much to bear. I knew that is what was going to make Hell... Hell.
That is why I'm here. not to save any of you as I know personally not everyone was meant to serve God for ever and can/will find contentment in Hell. I am here for those what if-ers. I don't want anyone to experience the what if part of hell as that will be beyond cruel if I can help it. That said if you do not take my offer at least you won't be a what if-er.. might be a should have done... but not what if... what if can take place out of sheer ignorance, shuld have done is outof defiance and like I saidI think you can come to terms in hell with your own defiance.
(October 8, 2017 at 1:31 am)KevinM1 Wrote:(October 7, 2017 at 8:35 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: You had a stupid dream, you fucking moron. But by all means keep misrepresenting it, like the shit you are. Every time you retell one of your stories, it gets more and more fanciful. You're a piss poor liar.
My father had a dream that he saw god. Or made up a lie. According to him, he took a nap on the couch, then dreamt that he got up to go to the bathroom. When he saw his reflection in the mirror, god was standing next to him. My father couldn't make out any facial details, just that the figure was radiating light. It told my father something along the lines of "You're doing a good job."
Of course, my father was a child molester with serious issues revolving around anger, paranoia, control, and narcissism. So, whenever someone says they talk to god (or god talks to them), I can't help but think they're a similar kind of raging asshole. Birds of a feather and all that.
You do know 'god' is not the only being able to speak to people right? Satan was the angel of light...
Every time I saw "god" or an angel they always came as humble almost homeless dressed men. So there's that. then there the bit in the bible where it says "if an angelic being or anyone claim to be a prophet of god contradicts what is recorded in scripture is a falsely representing themselves as being fro God."
So if Jesus says "if anyone should harm a hair on a 'little one's Head" it would be better if he hung a great stone around his neck and cast himself into the sea. and then you have a 'being of light' telling him he is doing a great job molesting children, then anyone with a little bit of sense could deduce that message was not from God.
(October 6, 2017 at 3:27 pm)Astreja Wrote:(October 6, 2017 at 10:47 am)Drich Wrote: If you want to experience it for yourself then threaten to spit in God's eye and demand he show you what was so bad about hell. Over and over and over again. I promise you. you will see Hell. What i can't promise is a return trip home. Even so that what I did. I wanted to know the truth and I jumped off a cliff to find it. I did.
Your method sounds very much like an act of self-hypnosis, especially the "over and over and over again" part.
you miss the obvious to find your 'self diagnosis.'
If you live your life and never find God you will indeed inevitably find Hell. that is why I can not promise a return trip home. But can promise God one way or another will indeed show you the gates of Hell.
