(October 9, 2017 at 5:22 pm)Drich Wrote:(October 9, 2017 at 4:07 pm)Mathilda Wrote: Except that we can use the process of evolution for practical purposes. We know that it works. We can observe it happening.
None of which can be said for your alternative hypothesis.
holy crap mathilda, how can you guys be so miss informed about your corner stone theory on orgins/Your God killer?
I use the evolutionary process every day with genetic algorithms. I've used that understanding to design my own successful evolutionary algorithm. I use them to evolve self organising systems which work based on our scientific understanding of complexity develops over time. This is not just what some random people believe, this is theory backed by evidence to the point where it is now useful.
And it's not just me. Many medications are created based on our understanding of genetics. I trained as a bioinformatician for 6 months and processed DNA sequencing data and saw what the evolutionary biologists were doing. Neurophysiology is understood in evolutionary terms based on what we observe in the brains of different animals.
What you and other theists don't understand that the theory of evolution has come about to explain the observation. Like every scientific theory it is backed by a wealth of evidence, because if it wasn't it would be a hypothesis.
Quote:The biggest flaw in evolution is that NOTHING N-O-T-H-I-N-G Has EVER been documented Evolving into another species. like from one stable species who say lives in water then later dominates the land then goes back into the water (like the current theory o the blue whale) Even the 24 hour fruit fly who proved inter species evolution which I am using to claim my theory about the strong survive during periods of climate change) is limited to very minor changes over literal hundreds of thousands of generations. (like they may adapt to eating one trype of fruit or another, but in the end they remain 24 hour fruit flys. Nothing has ever been seen to change into anything else. That is the silver bullet to darwinism.
No the biggest flaw is in your understanding of evolution. People have pointed this out to you and many other theists repeatedly but you still persist in sticking to what you want to believe the theory of evolution says so that you can make a strawman argument. Although based on your equivocation here referring to things and types, it is difficult to actually know exactly what you mean. So at best it's a strawman argument, at worse it is plain wrong.
But I shall explain it once more. The theory of evolution does not say that an animal will give birth to another type of animal.I am going to use all my formatting skills possible here to get across the key point which all theists prefer to forget so they can continue making strawman arguments.
The process of evolution only works with small changes taking place each generation.
The larger the change the less likely it is that the offspring will be as fit or fitter than it's parents. If you write a genetic algorithm which can make big changes each generation then it won't work.
(October 9, 2017 at 5:22 pm)Drich Wrote: My hyopthsis is defined by nature it self. in that we see it every day. for example If i have a TROPICAL fish tank and have some colder water fish mixed in.. the cold water fish would migrate to the bottom and try and find cooler spots in the rock and caves. while the other topical fish dominate the rest of my 5000 gallon tank
Again you do not understand evolution. You are talking about sudden changes. Imagine you had the same tank for several thousands of years with one species of fish tropical in it who don't like to go down to the bottom because it's too cold. As food collects at the bottom then it becomes more beneficial to be down there. So over many generation some fish will start to swim further down to feed off the unexploited resources collecting at the bottom until eventually speciation will give you both warm water and cold water species of fish that each have the same common ancestor.
Remember:
The process of evolution only works with small changes taking place each generation.
(October 9, 2017 at 5:22 pm)Drich Wrote: saying "evolution did it is no different than saying God did it. However saying climate change is reducing the viable animals on the planet is something neither one of us can deny. and yet we have nothing evolving to survive this comming "water world."
Except the theory of evolution comes from the observable evidence. It is a theory with explanatory power that can be used in practice. Goddidit has none of these features. I can not write a goddidit algorithm. Saying goddidit does not further elucidate how a god, whatever a god is, could actually do something. Nor is there any evidence or reason to believe that a god actually exists. And your hypothesis about climate change does not match the available data, nor does it explain what we currently observe. This is what theists don't understand. If you want to overturn an existing theory, then you need to explain all the existing evidence that the current theory is derived from.
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The process of evolution only works with small changes taking place each generation.