(October 18, 2017 at 12:25 pm)Drich Wrote:(October 17, 2017 at 4:27 pm)Khemikal Wrote: I think it's hilarious that the mere presence of a woman seems emasculating to some men.
Grow a pair.
that what scouting is sport. it was a place where boys could develop and become men without having to work out their fragile egos in front of the opposite sex.
We (some of the less bigotted) can look at other cultures 'rights of passage' like the Spartan's method of bring up a child and at a certain age send him out to kill a wolf or a native american vision quest or even something as mudain as a bar-mitsva as a right of passage for a boy to become a young man. Use to be in this country, the basic skill set of the boy scouts was the same sort of ritual.
I worked with many who have had a defining moment where a man leaves the childish things behind and embrace manhood fully. Then there's this generation where soceity has produced the peter pan man child douche bag. the perfect mindless man child. men who do not know how to lead, men who do not know how to be direct. men who do not know how to work/have no work ethic.
I'm not saying scouting is the only way to manhood, but it was a big part of it for a great number of young men and even some of our presidents.
But scouting can still be those things for the boys. Including girls won't change that. There can be character building for both sexes, and it may be even more effective having the opposite sex around so you can learn about them and learn to interact with them -
how to treat women well if you're a guy and how to treat men well if you're a woman. Including girls won't take away from male character building. It will simply add another very important element to it, and give them the opportunity to put that into practice directly.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh