(October 20, 2017 at 3:27 pm)FFaith Wrote:(October 20, 2017 at 2:00 pm)Brian37 Wrote: There is absolutely NOTHING "extremely controversial" about doing the right thing.
Again, you cant agree with CK and then say at the same time it is too much.
It has not been enough otherwise it would have never gotten to this point.
If blacks back in the 60s took a "don't rock the boat" attitude they would still be using separate bathrooms.
Again, the only "unprofessional" thing going on is holding the oval office hostage.
Yes, it is extremely controversial. Even if it's the right thing to do, by definition it is extremely controversial. I agree with Kap's message but I don't agree that one has to either choose to support the message and the ability to protest, or not support the message and be against the ability to protest. I can be fully with Kap on his message, but at the same time not have an issue with players not being able to protest while on the job. In the NFL, a player was told he was not even allowed to wear pink to pay tribute to his mother who passed away from breast cancer. This is how strict the NFL's rules are. The future of black people does not depend mainly on some NFL protest. The protests will still continue in the streets whether NFL players are allowed to protest on the job or not. These athletes can still bring awareness to these issues without protesting during the anthem.
I take back what I said about the government not really caring about the protests though. I was wrong about that. They care because the anthem is a recruitment tool of theirs for the military and they want to see the playing of the anthem respected so the propaganda works better. I don't really think Trump was demanding that the NFL change their policy though, nor did he need to. The free market has done that just fine on it's own, which is why Roger Goodell wants the players standing. Business is hurting. They should have never started playing the anthem, but since they can't go back in time, they're in a tough spot.
But yes you're right, next to everything that comes out of Trump's mouth is unprofessional and hilariously inappropriate.
No it is not.
You cannot have it both ways.
You can't agree with the right thing then call it controversial, much less unprofessional.
The only wrong going on here is ONE ASSHOLE shitting on the white house and using his office to drive a NEEDLESS wedge between society.
Yes the NFL is a business, but it isn't CK that is hurting them, the BIGOTS ARE. Again, some things are worth far more than a paycheck. CK gets it, I could give a shit less if the owners don't get it.
I once had a Pakistani co worker, when I met him he had been in America LEGALLY for 20 years. We both worked at a pizza joint. When I first met him I asked him his name, he responded "Frank". I knew that was bullshit knowing he was from Pakistan and his English was broken. I didn't say anything that day, but it kept bothering me to over hear the American workers call him Frank. After a few days I stopped him and asked him, "Why do you let people call you Frank, that is not your name."
He said, "They cant pronounce my name". I said, "So what, whose problem is that?" In less than a week all the workers were calling him by his real name FOZUL.
I could give a shit less what the owners want. They have no right to get rich off their labor then insist that same labor not have a say in how our entire economy works. I have no problem with private business as an idea. I never will. I will always have a problem with those at the top insisting that the only way to get along is to remain silent.
It is not the problem of the players protesting that the owners cannot see, or refuse to see that their labor is pointing out a social problem. Just like it was not FOZUL's problem his co workers couldn't pronounce his name. If owners care, then they should take the same risk that pro sports did with baseball back in the days of segregation and tell the bigots to FUCK OFF.
There is no ambiguity here, not one bit.
