RE: One sentence that throws the problem of evil out of the window.
November 7, 2017 at 6:08 pm
(This post was last modified: November 7, 2017 at 6:11 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
You're asking me to demonstrate something to you, and I'm trying to explain the basics of objective moral theory without making any presumptions upon you..but it;s not like we're going to get anywhere if you refuse to participate, right?
If you, for example, refer to the products of a brain as a disqualifier for objective facts..then okay, there are no objective facts. Not just moral ones, none of them. At least none that we're capable of apprehending....we use our brains to apprehend all "fact", it all breaks down there, and no amount of machines or measurement can rescue that. It doesn;t really matter that the things I would point to as relevant facts, moral facts of a matter -could- be measured, that an experiment could be used to demonstrate them, or falsify them.
If you, for example...don't agree that it;s at least conceivable for our opinions to correlate to fact, then none of my opinions could possibly correlate to a fact, but neither could yours. It isn't facts upon which you base your moral appraisal of livestock production..but that's hardly surprising, since, given the above, there are no facts to which you or I have access anyway...moral or otherwise.
Without some baseline participation and agreement we can't communicate.
If you, for example, refer to the products of a brain as a disqualifier for objective facts..then okay, there are no objective facts. Not just moral ones, none of them. At least none that we're capable of apprehending....we use our brains to apprehend all "fact", it all breaks down there, and no amount of machines or measurement can rescue that. It doesn;t really matter that the things I would point to as relevant facts, moral facts of a matter -could- be measured, that an experiment could be used to demonstrate them, or falsify them.
If you, for example...don't agree that it;s at least conceivable for our opinions to correlate to fact, then none of my opinions could possibly correlate to a fact, but neither could yours. It isn't facts upon which you base your moral appraisal of livestock production..but that's hardly surprising, since, given the above, there are no facts to which you or I have access anyway...moral or otherwise.
Without some baseline participation and agreement we can't communicate.
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