One sentence that throws the problem of evil out of the window.

[Mystic]

MK, the sooner you realize most people here are atheists simply because of lack of evidence, rather than, 1. We aren't reading the book right, 2. We're angry at god, 3. We don't want to, or 4. All of the above, the better off you will be.  Try actually listening to the reasons people give you for their positions.  That's like...step one in any debate/discussion about anything.

I don't think there is lack of evidence for God, but I do think we Theists are not presenting the evidence well.  We are distancing people from God by how we are presenting things, especially me.

So I will try to better my skills and present things better.

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Aroura, do you remember my greater design perspective response to evil while a Deist. I made a thread particularly to address the issue of children dying and suffering.

If you are interested, I can open a thread regarding that.

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This a rational stance but there are exceptions, some people like Hitler we should say is definitely going to hell.

Anyways, I know you meant it in a general sense, just wanted to point this out.

He most likely is there, it's probably a safe guess. But even with him, the Church still can't say he's there... same for Stalin, Zedong, Mussolini, etc.

I am certain he will in hell and is being punished right now.

I don't doubt it at all.