(November 8, 2017 at 1:28 pm)SteveII Wrote:(November 8, 2017 at 12:50 pm)possibletarian Wrote: It does not matter if sin is just one of the factors of free will at all, the bottom line is that god created humanity with no other option than to sin, in other words a world that could only sin. No matter how you torture and twist what you believe, it's a fact.
And why do you believe you have free will, where does the bible specifically mention it ?
Why "torture and twist"? I have no problem with the concept and no problems with the conclusion.
You can't be morally responsible without free will. Moral responsibility is nearly on every page of the Bible.
You think slavery is moral? Owning others as property is moral? The bible says so. What do you say?
