(November 11, 2017 at 5:43 pm)Khemikal Wrote:(November 11, 2017 at 11:01 am)emjay Wrote: what would you call,
I call it a delusion...not because I'm interested in diagnosing someone or isolating abberrent patterns of thought or behavior...but because it's delusional.
That's a relief... at least I don't have to change my terminology
Quote:Only offered the exposition because I found it amusing that someone was retreating into the clinical disgnosis...and that does more to harm their objection than it does to support it. That and to help you understand that the status of gods as proven or unproven is irrelevant. God beliefs could be delusional even if there were a god. Two people claim that god speaks to them in mutually excluive ways..they can;t both be right, at least one of them is delusional...as expressed in the example of christians and hindus...however...the third possibility, that they're both delusional...infinitely more likely.
Understood but my point was more about how behaviour indicates the basis of a belief, as either driven by emotional need (irrational - confirmation bias, brick walling, special pleading etc) or not. With the former... at its most extreme... being almost impossible to talk to and actually be heard, and therefore pointless to try, and at lesser extremes, that nature of the belief reducing its credibility, in my eyes anyway; especially when that is all that is offered to find God; ie 'keep knocking and you'll find him eventually' or in other words 'put yourself into the same emotionally biased state I am and then you'll find God'... that is not convincing to me in the slightest; I will not willfully walk into a self-fulfilling prophesy and come out of it thinking I've found God. Just as I will not entertain horoscopes, tea leaves or tarot cards that rely on the power of bias to do their thing.