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Mass shooting in a school? Need God. Mass shooting in a church?....
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RE: Mass shooting in a school? Need God. Mass shooting in a church?....
(November 12, 2017 at 12:58 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote:
(November 11, 2017 at 8:45 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Mass shootings are horrible. When it happens in a school, theists want to talk about how we need god in the classrooms. But mass shootings happen at churches too. So what's the solution there? Obviously being a place of prayer, where the people worship god, does not prevent psychos from busting in and gunning people down. This is how you know the whole "get god back in the classroom" is just a political stunt, right? Because buildings where prayers and praise take the forefront are not magically protected, any more than any other building.

For the most part, I would agree, that people are just trying to capitalize on the situation; towards a goal of theirs.  I would note, that I don't hear about gun control, when there is a mass shooting in say Germany (or other places where there is strict gun control).  And when there is a mass murder, which does not use guns... we do not hear about how gun control would have done nothing to prevent this.

With that being said, I do think that those advocating prayer are closer to the actual problem, than those looking to ban a particular weapon.  It's a social problem, not a weapon problem.   How long are we going to tell kids, that there is no meaning to life, that there is no moral accounting and it's up to them to decide what is moral or not.  We tell them there is no real right and wrong, and then are shocked when some behave badly?  We teach them, that it is all about them, how they feel, and that the slightest provocation merits a huge retaliation.   We advocate easy divorce and ignore the facts/studies which show that absent fathers (parents) are harmful for society [1]  [2]

So on one level, I agree with you.  I think that both the prayer in schools and the gun control people, both use these things as a political pry bar for their cause.  I would also agree, that prayer in a particular building may not particularly protect it from such things (be it school or church Luke 13 1-5)  And while I feel somewhat that an increased media presence and especially the social media problem has increased things even further;  when you look back at the change (at least here in the us),  it is hard not to see some correlation between the increase in liberal leftist teachings and practice and the results that we are seeing.

I'm not sure where you got the stuff you mentioned in the second paragraph, but I do agree there's a social problem to deal with here as well. We need to try harder to rehabilitate people, instead of just locking them in a cage for X number of years, then wonder why they come out worse than when they went in. Or helping people with mental issues, instead of scorning them for being the way they are, or looking down on them for seeking help.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."

10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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RE: Mass shooting in a school? Need God. Mass shooting in a church?.... - by Chad32 - November 12, 2017 at 1:07 pm

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