Theism is literally childish

[emjay]

Maybe it is but it is nonetheless how I feel. I do not have a burning desire to fill every gap, and do not lose any sleep over not knowing the answer to certain questions, only the questions that are important to me.

The issue is that, regarding a theist with a similar position, you say they have all the hallmarks of delusion.

As to Occam's Razor... yeah, but then it's just turtles all the way down isn't it? If there was always something rather than nothing, which I believe is possible, then there is no need to 'multiply entities needlessly' by adding a God,

On what evidence do you believe that an eternally existing universe is possible?

Once in a million, billion, or gazillion still shows possibility; statistically rare but materialistically possible will always trump magic for me.

You have no evidence that it's materially possible. Just the opposite.

Anyway you clearly know more about this than I do, so I at least read a bit of the wiki on abiogenesis; it's more than I knew (specifically at least... maybe I knew it in the back of my mind from long ago) that amino acids had already produced in experiments designed to replicate the supposed early conditions of earth. So here's me been waiting for something like that to happen... and it already has... sixty odd years ago but then I've always been a bit behind the times

You're still behind. Science no longer thinks that the Urey-Miller experiment replicated early conditions on earth.

But even if it had, it produced a few amino acids. Every day, millions of creatures die. They don't have a few amino acids, they have all the materials necessary for life. But, abiogenesis has never been observed on any of these. You could say that's because they get eaten. But, isolate them, and still - no life. Put them in a pool of water with whatever chemicals you lie and add heat to simulate the sun - still no life. Add electricity to simulate lightning - still, no life.

For you, time appears to be magic.

So the current state of research is presumably what you're talking about? ie the move from organic molecules to living cells? From what I gather, there are many competing theories, so despite your millions of negative results, if that's what you were referring to, it looks like a hot field with a lot of potential...

May competing theories means that not one of them has solid evidence. Why do you assign potential to such a situation?

and as far as I'm concerned... if amino acids have already been produced that way, there's every reason to be confident that the rest is just a matter of time.

Oh wow, you even confirmed the point. Time = magic.

Frankly alpha, I'm sick and tired of this argument. Take that as you will, as I already said, was entirely your prerogative, but I have no intention of arguing from now until Christmas with someone hellbent on equivocating at every turn; if you really, truly, see magic (ie supernatural... unexplainable, unaddressable, and unfalsifiable by science) as equally plausible, if not more, than physical evidence then there's nothing more I can say; the gap between our thinking is just too wide to ever be breached.

So let's leave this where we started; you can think I'm deluded or a hypocrite, or whatever else you think... and that's entirely your prerogative. But that does not change the fact that I believe you, and other theists like you, are deluded in your beliefs... and as such, to the extent that you recommend descent into the same delusion as a means to find god, all I can say is 'no thanks'... that has literally no rational appeal to me as it is a self-fulfilling prophesy and I will not willfully walk into one.