Theism is literally childish

[Brian37]

I am not saying that religious indoctrination explicitly states that the consequences of your actions are irrelevant, but it achieves this by trivialising the importance of your real-world life with the idea of an eternity of happiness and agony. And it is taught that this judgment is only carried out by your god.

You seem to be ignoring the fact that the Bible teaches that we get - or miss out on - eternal rewards based on our actions in this life.

That is not a choice when it is under threat. Hell is a threat, which is not a choice of mutual consent. 

A boyfriend/husband cant threaten to beat the shit out of or murder their partner if they chose to leave.

I don't think the idea of Santa would sell well if it it stopped at coal in your stocking.

Santa, "If you are good, you get presents forever."

Santa, "If you don't do what I say, I will beat the shit out of you, murder you and torture your soul forever.'


I cannot stop you from buying claims of either heaven or hell, but hell is  THREAT not a choice. It is a demand "or else". 

Now again, that kind of threat stems from ANTIQUITY, where human mortality was higher and towing the local ruling family line was the expectation of the day. THUS religions back then reflected the expectation of loyalty. The only places today that incorporate that blind loyalty concept today are theocracies and dictatorships.

No sane person today would find it moral, if they hated their job and wanted to quit, would find it moral if their boss said to them, "Stay and I will reward you, but try to leave and I will beat the shit out of you."

Look, I am being blunt about yes. But I am trying to point out to you that religion back then, even in prior polytheism, was tribal and back then, the local rulers were very harsh on dissent. 

If you are not threatened by a Muslim threatening you with Allah or a Muslim hell, then why should I give your claim's any more special consideration? 

Even the ancient Chinese religions of antiquity had their own form of worship of blind loyalty and authority. The Taracotta(sp) Warriors were very driven to brutally squash dissent, even within their own ranks. I our modern west, our rulers rule by OUR CONSENT.

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Rulers of antiquity mistook their success as coming from a divine place, and it wasn't always a single monotheistic deity, it was in polytheism, and more earthy religions were worship of ancestors. But it still amounts to loyalty to the ruler and local tribe.

It is also a myth that Rome and Greece were the models of today's western governments. No, even those were ruled by ruling families ultimately.