(December 1, 2017 at 4:58 pm)Grandizer Wrote:(December 1, 2017 at 4:15 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Ok, so your theory/best guess is that the cosmos and everything in it has always been there. What exactly is "the cosmos"?
(I don't understand hammy's theory, but want to just focus on yours for now)
It's not a theory, first of all. It's just a proposition/belief, just like the God belief.
The cosmos is everything in existence aside from the divine (and the supernatural). It can comprise multiple universes, even infinite number of them, and other "natural" stuff that we have yet to even conceive of.
The cosmos is here, and as I argued in the OP, we can't have non-existence in place of it. Therefore, the cosmos has always been.
Yes, proposition/belief, that's what I meant. Thank you.
So when you say you believe the cosmos have always been here, you mean everything in existence has always been here?
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