(December 2, 2017 at 9:44 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(December 2, 2017 at 9:01 pm)Grandizer Wrote: You're free to keep posting. If I see anything in your post worth responding to, I will still respond.
Under eternalism, actually, you have. If eternalism is true, every time-instance of you is eternal because every moment in time is eternal. But that said, you have no obligation to adhere to the exact same position I do. A lot of it is speculation, after all, but the key point here is that there is logical validity to it (AFAIK), and that there are certain versions of God that just aren't logically possible.
That's true. I only separate God from the Cosmos for the sake of going along with the typical theist's notion of a God that is separate from everything else in existence, and to show how logically problematic it is to separate God from time and space and all that.
No, by all means, continue to have an exchange with CL, if you want. Better you than me, lol.
Grand, I don't understand your response to me. My existence began in 1986 when my dad's sperm and my mom's egg came together and formed my DNA, which prior to that moment, did not exist. That, we do have proof of.
What do you mean by eternalism?
I don't understand you saying that I have always existed. It makes no logical sense to me.
When you say it makes no logical sense, what you really mean is that it is not intuitive to you, not that you have been able to use logic to debunk it. Again, intuition and logic are two different things.
Anyway, eternalism is philosophy to do with the nature of time, and it has implications regarding the nature of reality itself as a result. If you want to know more about it, you'll have to do some Googling, but the gist of it is that time is not how we normally intuit it. Time, under eternalism, doesn't flow from past to present to future. Rather, it is just simply a coordinate (or dimension) of a "frozen" reality that presently contains not just all the whereabouts and locations in this present instance of time, but also those of past and future instances of time. They all exist simultaneously and have always been. That's what I mean when I say you have always existed.
You are looking at it from the angle of the "present-you" and assuming an actual flow of time. When I say we have always existed, I am looking at it from the angle of a hypothetical (and illogical) "outside observer", observing a 4D (or more) sort of unbounded "block" that is called "reality" or "cosmos".
