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Arguments Against Creator God
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RE: Arguments Against Creator God
(December 3, 2017 at 3:28 pm)SteveII Wrote: So, you think that by using imaginary numbers for the time variable in Einstein's gravitational equations--which has the effect of avoiding describing anything before Planck Time means that is what happened in reality? Seems to be motivated more by metaphysics than anything. My understanding is that the Standard Bid Bang Theory is still the preferred theory. Regardless, just the existence of the Standard Theory is enough to deflect any charge of God creating ex nihilo as illogical. Even if it became popular, the Hartle-Hawkins model is at best an undercutting defeater.

The Standard Big Bang Theory doesn't state that the cosmos had a beginning. And even with regards to this local universe, the most you can say is that there was a beginning to the expansion of this universe, not existence.
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Arguments Against Creator God - by Grandizer - December 1, 2017 at 12:04 am
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by The Grand Nudger - December 1, 2017 at 12:15 am
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by purplepurpose - December 1, 2017 at 2:03 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by Catholic_Lady - December 1, 2017 at 2:33 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by brewer - December 1, 2017 at 3:31 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by Catholic_Lady - December 1, 2017 at 3:33 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by brewer - December 1, 2017 at 3:45 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by Catholic_Lady - December 1, 2017 at 3:56 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by LadyForCamus - December 1, 2017 at 11:01 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by MysticKnight - December 1, 2017 at 11:05 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by Brian37 - December 1, 2017 at 3:46 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by Grandizer - December 1, 2017 at 4:04 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by Catholic_Lady - December 1, 2017 at 4:15 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by Grandizer - December 1, 2017 at 4:58 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by Catholic_Lady - December 1, 2017 at 5:03 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by Grandizer - December 1, 2017 at 10:10 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by Catholic_Lady - December 1, 2017 at 10:36 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by Grandizer - December 1, 2017 at 11:12 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by Catholic_Lady - December 2, 2017 at 6:15 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by LadyForCamus - December 2, 2017 at 10:38 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by Catholic_Lady - December 2, 2017 at 11:34 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by henryp - December 3, 2017 at 12:19 am
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by Ravenshire - December 2, 2017 at 2:34 am
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by downbeatplumb - December 2, 2017 at 7:50 am
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by The Grand Nudger - December 1, 2017 at 3:09 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by purplepurpose - December 1, 2017 at 3:49 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by Cod - December 1, 2017 at 3:49 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by The Grand Nudger - December 1, 2017 at 3:52 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by purplepurpose - December 1, 2017 at 4:00 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by The Grand Nudger - December 1, 2017 at 3:57 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by Banned - December 1, 2017 at 5:47 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by Grandizer - December 1, 2017 at 10:53 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by Banned - December 2, 2017 at 1:05 am
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by Grandizer - December 2, 2017 at 9:01 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by Catholic_Lady - December 2, 2017 at 9:44 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by Grandizer - December 2, 2017 at 10:11 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by Catholic_Lady - December 2, 2017 at 10:32 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by Grandizer - December 3, 2017 at 1:22 am
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by SteveII - December 3, 2017 at 11:00 am
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by Angrboda - December 3, 2017 at 1:46 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by SteveII - December 3, 2017 at 3:28 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by Grandizer - December 3, 2017 at 7:34 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by Grandizer - December 3, 2017 at 5:18 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by SteveII - December 4, 2017 at 10:44 am
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by Grandizer - December 4, 2017 at 4:46 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by SteveII - December 5, 2017 at 12:38 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by Grandizer - December 6, 2017 at 2:57 am
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by The Grand Nudger - December 1, 2017 at 5:50 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by Minimalist - December 1, 2017 at 10:14 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by MysticKnight - December 1, 2017 at 10:58 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by henryp - December 2, 2017 at 1:50 am
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by MysticKnight - December 2, 2017 at 7:47 am
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by LadyForCamus - December 1, 2017 at 11:27 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by The Grand Nudger - December 1, 2017 at 11:27 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by SteveII - December 3, 2017 at 12:33 am
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by Minimalist - December 3, 2017 at 1:41 am
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by Nay_Sayer - December 3, 2017 at 11:37 am
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by The Grand Nudger - December 4, 2017 at 2:58 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by purplepurpose - December 4, 2017 at 3:13 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by SteveII - December 4, 2017 at 3:58 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by The Grand Nudger - December 4, 2017 at 3:17 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by purplepurpose - December 4, 2017 at 3:26 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by The Grand Nudger - December 4, 2017 at 3:28 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by purplepurpose - December 4, 2017 at 3:29 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by Norfolk And Chance - December 4, 2017 at 3:36 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by The Grand Nudger - December 4, 2017 at 3:36 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by purplepurpose - December 4, 2017 at 3:55 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by Succubus - December 4, 2017 at 4:32 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by purplepurpose - December 4, 2017 at 4:39 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by The Grand Nudger - December 4, 2017 at 4:02 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by Prycejosh1987 - November 13, 2019 at 4:35 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by mordant - November 13, 2019 at 9:30 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by LostLocke - November 16, 2019 at 12:18 am
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by Grandizer - November 13, 2019 at 5:07 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by The Grand Nudger - November 13, 2019 at 11:28 pm
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by Mister Agenda - November 14, 2019 at 10:39 am
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by Gwaithmir - November 16, 2019 at 8:04 am
RE: Arguments Against Creator God - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2019 at 9:38 am

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