(December 15, 2017 at 8:59 pm)Starhunter Wrote:(December 15, 2017 at 6:14 pm)Cyberman Wrote: Why?
Also, biology doesn't do machinations.
I accept for arguments sake that biology is free of purposeful action.
Which puts biology about on the same level as a machine doesn't it?
(December 15, 2017 at 8:58 pm)Brian37 Wrote: "Apparent" is the key, and science has proven that our species perceptions of reality are notoriously flawed.
We don't doubt you truly believe your position, you are not the first theist we have ever debated. What we do doubt is your perception of reality.
Fair enough.
No, nature is not a machine, it is a process. It is stupid to treat nature as being the same as what humans build, like a car or factory. Evolution is very predictable yes, but don't confuse the observation as being a product.
Evolution is merely a science full of language that describes our observations. It is not a product itself. It is a language humans developed to describe our own scientific observations.
You cannot call evolution a "machine". If evolution were a "machine" then you could easily claim that lightening is a product of Thor. Lightening is certainly observable and explainable, in scientific terms, but it is also hardly a product made by a machine.
You can also explain conditions that lead to a hurricane, but you rightfully do not see hurricanes as the product of a Ocean God named Poseidon.
"Predictions" in scientific language isn't calling for machines or factory bosses. It is merely saying atoms, under certain conditions can lead to these outcomes.
